Testo prop

Could you guys please give me some advise on This testo propionate? I decided to go for the following cycle :

Week 1 - 6 : Deca 300 (1ml monday + 1 ml Thursday)
Week 1 - 6 : Test combo (2ml monday + 2ml thursday)
Week 1 - 4 : Dianabol (40mg per day)

Would you say I must include This:
Week 7 - 10 : Test propionate

You can do test prop at the end maybe add winstrol too for the last 3 weeks too can get nice and hard before your cycle ends..

Also remeber test is test is test is test... test prop works just like test e just quicker in the system and quicker out.. thats why prop is normally used in shorter cycles as the cycle starts pretty much from the get go and finishes very soon after you pin your last shot...

what are you trying to achieve by adding the prop?

A guy told me that If i use test prop at the end of the cycle it will help with keeping gains and get really hard, while on this topic, can you plz inform me what must i do to keep gains, many people says i'm going to loose it all as soon as I stop, what must i do to keep the gains?

as I said you can finish off the cycle with anavar for 3/4 weeks and maybe stack masteron... then when you come off the cycle you stop the anadrol the day you start your PCT... I also think 6 weeks of deca is to little and i'd actually swop the deca with EQ and run it for 12 - 14 weeks... these are all ideas but we can work out a different cycle if you like that you can keep gains, I keep 100% gains when i stop a cycle... even maybe put on during PCT...

The cycle you came up with is too short.
Deca and the Test combo have long esters which basically means it will take a while to kick in. Run long esters for 10+ weeks.

Also for a first cycle Test on its own will be good enough. Add the dbol if you really want to, but Deca has serious side effects (lactation is 1)and will make recovery and PCT more complicated.

Thanx for your help then, what would you then say can I use if I want to keep 100% of my gains (my goal is to put on 7kg) ?

Thanx for your help BB, appreciate it.........

Stephan wrote:

Thanx for your help then, what would you then say can I use if I want to keep 100% of my gains (my goal is to put on 7kg) ?

The less harsh a product is on your hormone system, the easier it will be to hold on to gains.(stay away from Deca if you want a smooth,easy recovery) Also the drier your gains the more you should keep.(you wont lose loads of water weight)

Test as a base 500mg/week
(6-8 weeks if prop)(10-12 weeks enanthate)

Anavar 60mg/day (6weeks)
(very dry gains. no aromatise/estogen/water)
(also very safe and little side effect)

If your PCT is spot on, and your diet is good you should keep most of your gains.
BTW, with any cycle, PCT is paramount in keeping any amount of gains.

well said..

if the prop is going to be used at all, it should be jected in the beginning, ED shots

BB_guy wrote:

Stephan wrote:

Thanx for your help then, what would you then say can I use if I want to keep 100% of my gains (my goal is to put on 7kg) ?

The less harsh a product is on your hormone system, the easier it will be to hold on to gains.(stay away from Deca if you want a smooth,easy recovery) Also the drier your gains the more you should keep.(you wont lose loads of water weight)

Test as a base 500mg/week
(6-8 weeks if prop)(10-12 weeks enanthate)

Anavar 60mg/day (6weeks)
(very dry gains. no aromatise/estogen/water)
(also very safe and little side effect)

If your PCT is spot on, and your diet is good you should keep most of your gains.
BTW, with any cycle, PCT is paramount in keeping any amount of gains.

Well done karma + 1

BBG wrote:

if the prop is going to be used at all, it should be jected in the beginning, ED shots

you can do either ED or EOD, really up to u and only kak thing is u have to rotate sites all the time from shoulders to glutes to quads...my advice just stick to normal EOD... so do mon wed fri sun tues thurs sat mon and so on

Agree on the cycle length-you can't use deca or long esters for 6 week cycle unless you're going frontload heavily and ride the ester, but this is an advanced technique.

Var should also be used a bit longer than 6 weeks to get the benefit.
The compounds you were orginally looking at are heavily aromatising compounds with quite a bit of water retention, so you will gain a lot of weight, but a large amount will be water-bulking regimen.

TEst prop, because of the clearance rate and less build up is often used as a cutter as there seems to be less water retention.

For a first cycle prop is a bastard-can be very painful injection and you have to do them at least EOD.

If you decide to go for a short cycle of 6 weeks, I would suggest
test prop weeks 1-6 500mg/week (EOD)
Tbol or dbol (dbol at 40mg per day or tbol at 60mg/day) weeks 1-4
Tbol is similar to Var in that there is virtually no aromatisation and is a very light drug.
Dbol is more powerful, with water retention and estrogen conversion.
I would add some adex at 0.5mg EOD on test prop and tbol or 0.5ED if test prop and dbol-rather keep the estrogen low until you know how you handle excess estrogen. Some can handle it some can't.

For a longer cycle
test enth weeks 1-10 500mg/week
tbol or dbol as above for weeks 1-4
On this I would add some HCG in weeks 3-6 and weeks 11-13 at 1,500IU's per week split across three pins.
I don't think it's necessary on the 6 weeker, but can be added at the same doses in weeks 7 and 8
THen run nolva in both cases at 40mg per day, on the 6 weeker starting 3 days after last test prop jab for 4 weeks.
On the 10 weeker start nolva 2 weeks after the last test enth jab for 4 weeks.
Gets lots of vit c-3,000mg per day-during pct and lots of fish oil.

Post up your diet as this will make or break the cycle

its not a matter of choice it is a matter of results, consistency is key
ED will give maximal results thats for sure
there are other sites as well, no problem there