SuperDrol + Oral Turinabol - Pls advise

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18 Feb 2010 18:08 #36904 by kastr0
Hi

I am 22 y/o (77kgs/183cm) and have been training consistently for 4 years. This year I decided to go on something, so I spoke to a friend of a friend that supposedly knows his sh1t. R*** later and he gets me a bottle of SUPERDROL 10mg (60 caps) and a bottle of Oral-T 10mg (Oral Turinabol) by OC LABS (50 caps).

Before starting the cycle on Monday (22 Feb), I would just appreciate some advice from any knowledgeable guys on the forum. Since i've never used any illegal supplement, my knowledge is at its minimal, but I have tried researching as much as possible over a few days.

I was told to take:
    Oral-T 10mg once a day for 50 days.
    Superdrol 10mg once a day for 4 weeks. Rest 2 weeks. On again for 2 weeks at 10mg/day

Question 1
After reading a whole lot on the internet, I read that a PCT is necessary. I spoke to the guy that recommended the cycle to me, and he told me that since it's such a low dosage I do not need to worry about PCT at all? Is this true? No Kessar/Nolvadex 10mg/20mg as recommended on forums? :S

Question 2
I read a long article on this specific forum , regarding Milk Thistle during the cycle and it not been advisable? I read on other forums, that orals are extremely toxic on the liver so Milk Thistle is highly advisable! Now who do I believe? :S :S

Question 3
How does Citro-Soda help, and should I worry about taking it?

Supplements:
ON Whey Protein stacked with ON CGT-10 and ON 1000mg BCAA's.
ON ZMA - 3 caps at night before bedtime
Gaspari SuperPump 250 - 1 scoop pre workout.
Krill Oil/Multivitamin/Vitamin C

Please advise on what I should and should not be taking.

TIA

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18 Feb 2010 18:53 #36914 by N3rd
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Hi
Good to hear you want some more info before you dive into your stuff.

Oral Turinabol is not very liver toxic, but it is.
There is a huge article here on the forum about Suberbol/Superdrol/Mega Anadrol. (Can't remember it toxicity sorry)
Just google Mega Anadrol.

Yeah, if you run liver support during a cycle, it may decrease the efficiency somewhat.

Good Luck
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18 Feb 2010 19:02 #36919 by SNOK1986
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You can search it by just typing in the product u wanna check out in the window next to where the tab "rules" is.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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18 Feb 2010 19:50 #36926 by solvtech
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two orals at same time isn't that bad for your liver.

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18 Feb 2010 19:53 #36927 by N3rd
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Yes it is.
That's why you should keep it short.
(Which limits gains)
And keep the doses low.
(Which also limits gains)

Thus Oral only cycles aren't that good..

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18 Feb 2010 20:24 #36931 by milktuds
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kastr0 wrote:

Hi

I am 22 y/o (77kgs/183cm) and have been training consistently for 4 years. This year I decided to go on something, so I spoke to a friend of a friend that supposedly knows his sh1t. R*** later and he gets me a bottle of SUPERDROL 10mg (60 caps) and a bottle of Oral-T 10mg (Oral Turinabol) by OC LABS (50 caps).

Before starting the cycle on Monday (22 Feb), I would just appreciate some advice from any knowledgeable guys on the forum. Since i've never used any illegal supplement, my knowledge is at its minimal, but I have tried researching as much as possible over a few days.

I was told to take:

    Oral-T 10mg once a day for 50 days.
    Superdrol 10mg once a day for 4 weeks. Rest 2 weeks. On again for 2 weeks at 10mg/day

Question 1
After reading a whole lot on the internet, I read that a PCT is necessary. I spoke to the guy that recommended the cycle to me, and he told me that since it's such a low dosage I do not need to worry about PCT at all? Is this true? No Kessar/Nolvadex 10mg/20mg as recommended on forums? :S

Question 2
I read a long article on this specific forum , regarding Milk Thistle during the cycle and it not been advisable? I read on other forums, that orals are extremely toxic on the liver so Milk Thistle is highly advisable! Now who do I believe? :S :S

Question 3
How does Citro-Soda help, and should I worry about taking it?

Supplements:
ON Whey Protein stacked with ON CGT-10 and ON 1000mg BCAA's.
ON ZMA - 3 caps at night before bedtime
Gaspari SuperPump 250 - 1 scoop pre workout.
Krill Oil/Multivitamin/Vitamin C

Please advise on what I should and should not be taking.

TIA


What are your goals and what does your diet look like?

10mg T-Bol isn't gonna do shit. Superdrol will give you water and some strength.
I would skip this, save up on cash and do a proper cycle.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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18 Feb 2010 21:02 #36936 by kastr0
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Goal is basically to be weighing in at around 83-84kgs for my height 183cm and to be lean.

Diet consists of around 120g-150g of protein per day with carbs with every meal (Oats, Brown Rice, Sweet Potato). Of course veggies with lunch and dinner and fruit during the day.

For no one to post anything about a PCT, clearly states that it's not important with this cycle and I won't need to worry about one.

WTR to liver support versus efficiency - I think i'd rather protect my liver than worrying about the cycle being 100% effective...

Thank you to all the provided answers...

milktuds, - I can't exactly skip this as i've already forked out R900 for it. I was thinking of just going ahead with it and see what results I can get out of it. By 'proper cycle' what would you recommend for a beginner if you disagree with the above?

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18 Feb 2010 21:10 #36938 by Sting
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Well now ur gonna cycle just because u forked out the cash, lesson is plan and then purchase the gear. I would still not cycle it, keep it and incorporate it into a cycle when you have a good one planned

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18 Feb 2010 21:18 #36939 by N3rd
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Yeah, good advice from Beesting. :)

Otherwise you're gonna have to do each one separately but at higher doses and with their own pct's. (A waste)

While you'll have to do pct anyway, do a better cycle with the Oral Turinabol as your booster.

And the Superdrol maybe sometime on its own or sell it to someone

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18 Feb 2010 21:22 #36940 by milktuds
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kastr0 wrote:

Goal is basically to be weighing in at around 83-84kgs for my height 183cm and to be lean.

Diet consists of around 120g-150g of protein per day with carbs with every meal (Oats, Brown Rice, Sweet Potato). Of course veggies with lunch and dinner and fruit during the day.

For no one to post anything about a PCT, clearly states that it's not important with this cycle and I won't need to worry about one.

WTR to liver support versus efficiency - I think i'd rather protect my liver than worrying about the cycle being 100% effective...

Thank you to all the provided answers...

milktuds, - I can't exactly skip this as i've already forked out R900 for it. I was thinking of just going ahead with it and see what results I can get out of it. By 'proper cycle' what would you recommend for a beginner if you disagree with the above?


I appreciate that you have done some research on your behalf.

OK first off you are under eating. You need to have about 250g protein. Contact Djeasye to get a proper diet. Try and follow that for at least 3 - 6 months. You should make great gains off that alone. I know your arse might be itching to take the stuff you already bought, but I wouldn't if I were you.

Try and sell the Superdrol to someone else. Keep the T - Bol and when it's time to do a proper cycle you can get some more along with your other goodies.

What is your current body-fat % ?

Beginner cycle would be some form of Test and the T - Bol you've got. Followed by PCT.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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18 Feb 2010 21:26 #36941 by N3rd
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milktuds wrote:

Try and sell the Superdrol to someone else. Keep the T - Bol and when it's time to do a proper cycle you can get some more along with your other goodies.


Hey, that's what I said :huh:

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18 Feb 2010 21:28 #36942 by milktuds
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N3rd wrote:

milktuds wrote:

Try and sell the Superdrol to someone else. Keep the T - Bol and when it's time to do a proper cycle you can get some more along with your other goodies.


Hey, that's what I said :huh:


You beat me to it.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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18 Feb 2010 21:58 #36945 by kastr0
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BF% is around 12% - checked it around 3 weeks ago using the conventional clamping method.

250g of protein? JC dude! Thanks for info, i'll contact djeasye for a meal plan.

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18 Feb 2010 22:01 #36946 by milktuds
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Try and get to 10% or lower then do a proper bulking cycle.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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18 Feb 2010 22:26 #36947 by Sting
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kastr0 wrote:

BF% is around 12% - checked it around 3 weeks ago using the conventional clamping method.

250g of protein? JC dude! Thanks for info, i'll contact djeasye for a meal plan.

Yep 250g of protein (only 1000cals) and I eat around 200g (or more) a day. You can get raw whey from lsj to make up some of your protein

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