Long Cycles vs. Short Cycles

jacquespa
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24 Mar 2010 09:59 #40654 by jacquespa

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Which would you prefer?

How and with what would your Long/Short cycle look like?

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Gearedup
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24 Mar 2010 10:19 #40657 by Gearedup

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i only run long cycles , 6-9 months , i like consistant gains that it brings , it peaks and troughs , i add and subtract compounds as i go, and allows me to bulk, see if i am gaining to much fat diet down a bit and carry on. but i am not in my twenties, have had my kids etc etc

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vega5
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24 Mar 2010 10:40 #40659 by vega5

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I'm also quite convinced on longer cycles. You can start off with a lower drug intake and increase as time goes on and gains start to become less.

But estrogen and side effect management must be taken a lot more seriously with longer cycle as these as bound to happen.

I'm personally starting a 25 week cycle in May and if that goes well then that's the way forward for me from now on.

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Roozer
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24 Mar 2010 10:51 #40662 by Roozer

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i only used short cycles usually 8 weeks old school, deca 300, sust 250, dbol and winny with pct this is the first i am going to try to stretch it to about 16 and if months are good to 22 haha

As ek storm volg my, as ek omdraai skiet my, as ek sterwe wreek my, so help my God

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Empire
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24 Mar 2010 11:01 #40663 by Empire

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i say anything longer than 8 weeks is a long cycle,anything less is a short cycle, a good short cycle is this : all pgw injectables and LP orals :

Week 1-8
Test prop 100mg eod
Yohimbine based Fat burner daily
week 1-6
150mg masteron mix eod
150mg NPP eod

week 2-8
oral turanabol 60mg daily.
Week 1&2,5&6
Clenbutrol 80mcg for week 1&5 120mcg week 2&6.

Pct
week 9 - 12
50mg clomid
20mg kessar
500iu HCG eod.

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Mr Moose
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24 Mar 2010 11:02 #40665 by Mr Moose

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You ask quite open ended questions hey: Ha Ha
Would have to say both. Use my short cycles generally for immediate strength gains- obviously compound wise you go for short esters.
Medium cycles 10-12 weeks generally my cutting cycles, combination of fast and medium estered gear.
Long cycles for lean mass/bulking kind of a short cycle frontload and long estered gear for the rest, 14-20 weeks.
Anyway those are the kind of structures i use. Agreed that provided the gear is correct they give you a more sustainable, natural, gradual type of gain which is what i iam for.
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Weight: 122kg (current)
BF%: 9-11%
Height: 188cm
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jacquespa
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24 Mar 2010 11:03 #40666 by jacquespa

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Some would say that a short cycle would consist of Test Prop 100mg EOD for just 4weeks and then Off for 4weeks and then back on for 4weeks and so on.....

Some say that you don't even need PCT when using fast acting esters for 4weeks.... Is I understand its because your system is not AS shut down with a long cycle.

Someone have any input?

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Empire
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24 Mar 2010 11:22 #40671 by Empire

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bro i would always do a pct...so time on + pct = time off. so 4 week cycles means 6 weeks off...

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Mr Moose
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24 Mar 2010 11:30 #40673 by Mr Moose

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Some say he sucks the moisture from ducks?
Some say his ears Arent really where you expect them to be?
All we know....

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Empire
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24 Mar 2010 11:35 #40675 by Empire

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his tears can cure cancer...

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jacquespa
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24 Mar 2010 11:37 #40676 by jacquespa

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I totaly agree with the "PCT a must"

I would also stick with the Long cycles and correct PCT but would one day try the short cycles and see how they work.

I was just wondering what the sciency bit is behind a short cycle and how/what/when your system would shut down... thus the need for PCT.

Anyone with a right mind would do alot of research on short/long cycles before jumping in.

I came across this and thought it might make an interesting topic.

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vega5
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24 Mar 2010 11:51 #40678 by vega5

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Some say, he has a tattoo of his face on his face.

Some say, his tears are adhesive.

All we know is...

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jacquespa
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24 Mar 2010 11:56 #40680 by jacquespa

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I guess we have some Fans of Top Gear on this Form....

:laugh:

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Netro
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24 Mar 2010 13:06 #40693 by Netro

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Chuck Norris actually

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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Netro
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24 Mar 2010 13:06 #40694 by Netro

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DJ wrote:

his tears can cure cancer...

But he never cries ....

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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jackrabbit1
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24 Mar 2010 13:36 #40696 by jackrabbit1

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DJ wrote:

i say anything longer than 8 weeks is a long cycle,anything less is a short cycle, a good short cycle is this : all pgw injectables and LP orals :

Week 1-8
Test prop 100mg eod
Yohimbine based Fat burner daily
week 1-6
150mg masteron mix eod
150mg NPP eod

week 2-8
oral turanabol 60mg daily.
Week 1&2,5&6
Clenbutrol 80mcg for week 1&5 120mcg week 2&6.

Pct
week 9 - 12
50mg clomid
20mg kessar
500iu HCG eod.

Very nice little cycle. Should be published under examples.

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Mr Moose
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24 Mar 2010 13:39 #40697 by Mr Moose

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Some say he sleeps with a night light on because the dark is afraid of him....

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jacquespa
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24 Mar 2010 13:43 #40701 by jacquespa

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might as well join in....

Some say that he knows only two things about ducks and both are wrong!

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Yohimbe
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24 Mar 2010 17:40 #40741 by Yohimbe

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I like short cycles-6 weekers
Just finished
Test prop 800mg per week weeks 1-6
NPP 500mg per week weeks 1-6
Dbol 50mg per day weeks 1-3
Winny 30mg per day weeks 5-6 (all I had left or would have gone to 50mg per day)
HCG 1,500iu per week weeks 2-3 and 7-8
T3 120mcg per day weeks 1-5
Clen 120mcg per day weeks 4-6
Letro 0.5mg EOD (estrogen sensitive)

PCT: HCG 1,500 weeks 7-8 as above and nolva 20mg per day weeks 7-11 with EFA's and vit c

Nice cycle, pity I wasn't on DJ's diet from the start, or would have been great cycle.

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jackrabbit1
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24 Mar 2010 19:16 #40760 by jackrabbit1

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I love TestProp + NPP cycles. But they ALWAYS end up long. I start with a 8 week plan but when i get to week 7 it just really starts to get going. Before i know it i've ordered another batch.... and then another.

Think i'll throw in sone TBol next time.

Did you start off with 120mcg T3? No ramp up/down? The same with the Clen?
Hardcore.....?

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Yohimbe
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24 Mar 2010 19:22 #40762 by Yohimbe

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jackrabbit1 wrote:

I love TestProp + NPP cycles. But they ALWAYS end up long. I start with a 8 week plan but when i get to week 7 it just really starts to get going. Before i know it i've ordered another batch.... and then another.

Think i'll throw in sone TBol next time.

Did you start off with 120mcg T3? No ramp up/down? The same with the Clen?
Hardcore.....?

No, ramped up and down, that was the max dose-not quite that hardcore

Also love prop and NPP.
My next plan is a 10 weeker, but 2 short cycles split in two-something like Test prop, NPP and perhaps winny for 5 weeks and then from week 5-10 test prop, tren ace and masteron or something like that.

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24 Mar 2010 20:21 #40780 by vega5

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A last one:

Some say that his genitals are on up side down and that he could solve the Da Vinci code in 43 seconds. All we know is...

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Netro
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24 Mar 2010 20:57 #40782 by Netro

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Some say, when his mother gave birth to him the only person in the room that was crying was the doctor as nobody slaps you know who

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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24 Mar 2010 20:58 #40783 by Netro

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Some say when he does push ups, he does not push himself up, but pushes the earth down .....

It is not what car you drive, but the size of the arm hanging out the window.

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24 Mar 2010 21:24 #40784 by vega5

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Some say he never blinks, and that he roams around the woods at night foraging for wolves...

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