PGW Anavar

Zoltan
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10 Dec 2007 22:57 #413 by Zoltan

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Anybody had any experience with PGW anavar before? When is the strength supposed to kick in? Only been using 2 caps of var 30mg to 40mg/day for 3 days now, but still no strength increase. I used a brand called alchemy pharmacia a while back. That var was kick-ass. Strength sky-rocketed on day 2 at 20mg/day with calories dipped to under 1000 and my strength continued to climb day by day. Sadly its not available anymore.

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Netro
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11 Dec 2007 09:46 #414 by Netro

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My gym partner is a anavar fan, and he usually sees the most gains in strength and muscle only after 3 weeks. Just double check your dose, it's worked out by 0.250mg per kg of body weight, in split doses and taken after meals, but since you have taken before you should know that. Are you only doing a var cycle? If not, what else are you stacking it with

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Zoltan
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11 Dec 2007 11:06 #415 by Zoltan

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I'm doing a var only cycle. I'm primarily using it for its strength promoting abilities without the added weight. My weight is currently 101kgs so it works out to more or less 25mg/day. I'm currently taking 2 caps which makes 30mg to 45mg/day. I think I'm going to up the dosage to 3 caps (45mg to 60mg/day) to see if that helps. I also like the fact that legit var has potent anti-catabolic effects. I've used it successfully before while dieting down at under 1000 calories/day for 3 days then upping caloric intake for 1 day (Basic zig-zag dieting). Body fat just fell off and no muscle or strength was sacrificed.

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admin
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11 Dec 2007 12:16 #416 by admin

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Yeah, I think 3 days are too soon to see an effect. You should feel a difference in about 2-3 weeks.

I also use Anavar for cutting... I had some Nomad Anavar laying around, but I'm pretty certain it's useless. I've used PGW Anavar-10 in the past and the calve pumps were extreme. I'm in the process of ordering more PGW Var, I'm loosing way too much muscle and strength at the moment.

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Netro
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11 Dec 2007 14:50 #417 by Netro

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Zoltan, why don't you add some oral winny and proviron to your var cycle? Winny, increase in strength and hardness and lean gains, proviron, keeps you hard and lean and has some anti-estrogenic capabilities, one interesting side of proviron when you OD is a constant erection :laugh: so I would stick to the recommended dose of 50mg per day as they come in 25mg tabs and split them, they are non toxic on the liver so you can basically go on them as long as you like. Winny I would go for 30 mg per day, but they are liver toxic so 4 weeks max, winny also has a big anabolic effect, but low androgenic. Basically what that means is, it stops muscle breakdown when on low calorie diets, dosage here I would recommend not exceeding 50mg per day.

Hope this helps.

Just as a note, my gym partner uses the Nomad Var and he rates it, guess just different effects on different people.

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11 Dec 2007 15:53 #418 by admin

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Netro wrote:

Just as a note, my gym partner uses the Nomad Var and he rates it, guess just different effects on different people.

Yes, and I think the fact that PGW Anavar is of a much higher dose, also plays a big role. I think those PGW 10mg caps I bought a few months ago ware actually overdosed, but I’m certainly not complaining.

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Zoltan
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13 Dec 2007 16:02 #436 by Zoltan

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Yesterday I upped the dosage to 3 caps (45mg to 60mg) This morning I felt like throwing up. But that could be cos I'm on SSRI's as well. They also hammer your liver. But anyway, I'm happy to report that I started seeing an anabolic effect with this var on day 4 (i.e. A pump that just won't quit, my body weight has gone up by 2kgs as well. Chest, arms and shoulders definately look bigger) Is var suppose to increase your size like this? And so quickly? Anyway, now that I know its anabolic I can start dipping calories. I'll keep you posted.

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Empire
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15 Feb 2008 07:47 #1043 by Empire

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just a question here,what would be a good pct to use if you were doing a winny and anavar course? i am thinking of that as my next course...netro,u said no more than 30mg of winny a day orally? i am taking 50mg a day with milk thistle...

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Netro
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15 Feb 2008 12:55 #1052 by Netro

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Hi Djeasye,
I personally recommend lower oral dosages when using more than one oral, I would rather have guys being a little more cautious than end up with liver or intestinal problems. Any liver remedy product will help with orals, obviously there are better ones and not so good ones. When I have an oral throw in in a stack I use Milk Thistle and cruciale to help my liver cope, but the best way to check the beating your liver took is blood tests, nothing can tell you more than those. Some guys use planty orals and their tests are not too bad considering, others just have one course and their liver takes a worse knock than seasoned guys. My advice would be to take the necessary precuations and not to push the envelope.

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Empire
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15 Feb 2008 13:04 #1053 by Empire

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100% agreed,i havent started taking it with anavar as i dont have anavar just yet,i am just taking 50mg winstrol daily with 350mg equipoise a week... i want to do anavar and winstrol as my next course..

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Netro
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15 Feb 2008 13:41 #1054 by Netro

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Just to let you know, var is very mild on your liver and thus is seen as a "safer" oral. If you stack it with winny there should be no problem. This has only been through reading and obviously have no way of verifying this, besides comparitive blood tests. It also doesn't aromatise and apparently it doesn't affect your own test production (this is debateable as I have seen some other opinions as well), no aromatise = no water retention, Great!!!! Another tip when taking var is to take creatine as well, works very well as the var promotes better ceatine absorbtion by stimulating phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle cell. One last thing, var eats all body fat, so keep your EFA's up, nuts, avo blah blah, you know.

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Doctari
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15 Feb 2008 22:48 #1073 by Doctari

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Safe vs most effective oral dose of Winstrol = 0,2mg per kilogram body weight. Winstrol can be very hard on the liver, Anavar not. Anavar much more anabolic in ratio than Winstrol. I would recommend pushing the Anavar dose and just cruise low dose Winstrol...

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Netro
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16 Feb 2008 17:39 #1100 by Netro

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100% agreed doc

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Doctari
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16 Feb 2008 21:10 #1113 by Doctari

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Var has minimal effect on your own natural Tes levels - that's one of the reasons it is the choice drug to use in women, and also the older body builders.

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Conan
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07 Mar 2008 18:24 #1655 by Conan

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What a pleasant surprise! The last time I used real anavar was in '96 and the guys at PGW have the real macoy here ,I think you will know when youre taking real oxandrolone (diet and training staying the same and in 9 days strength has improved and I have gained weight while droping bodyfat)I have a healthy dis-trust of underground products but cannot say one bad thing about any of the PGW products,like I said it is a very pleasant surprise!!

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Doctari
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07 Mar 2008 21:15 #1658 by Doctari

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Conan, I'm getting old, dude. Ten years back I would squat sets of 180kg, bench press 180 and deadlift 200kgs - and I am not a powerlifter. About 6 weeks ago, I got some of PGW's Var. As the wify still has my nuts to herself, I knew I didn't want to take anything that can suppress my test levels or sperm count. I have been clean since Sept last year. So, I decided to use two caps a day for only 3 weeks - and nothing else! I started at 120kgs BW. Within 3 weeks I topped the scale at 126kgs, benching 160kgs, squating 180kgs and deadlifting 180kgs. And that is just on PGW Var !

So, yeah, I reckon this is good stuff !

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admin
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08 Mar 2008 11:01 #1663 by admin

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The very first product that I bought from PGW was 200 of their Anavar capsules and I have been using PGW Anavar ever since.

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DragonFly
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02 Apr 2008 13:59 #2311 by DragonFly

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Hi Guys,
I’m also running a VAR 6week cycle at the moment. Just doing 2 caps per day in divided doses after meals and approaching my 3de week now. I’m using the Nomad Lab Anavar but I think I’d like to try the PGW for my next cycle, just so I can say I tried both and to see what the diffs are.

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Netro
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02 Apr 2008 14:33 #2313 by Netro

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2 caps of nomad var is only 20 mg per day, that's a little low (a general statement as i do not know your stats). A general guide is 0.25mg per kg body weight, I think that's low and considering var is only mildly liver toxic. Most people will use 3 - 5 tabs per day with good results, but that might be a little expensive for most and it takes around 21 days to take effect, so 6 weeks is ample for the var to reach peak concentration. Keep your EFA's up as var eats all fat in your body.

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dirkgreeff
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02 Apr 2008 15:06 #2314 by dirkgreeff

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same here, was also the first thing i got from them

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Mr K
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02 Apr 2008 16:00 #2317 by Mr K

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Dirk I like your avatar , it makes me want to break shit.

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DragonFly
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02 Apr 2008 16:00 #2318 by DragonFly

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Jip, it's a low dose. I'm a endurance athlete and we don't want to add any weight, just need it for a bit of strengh and maybe loosing a few more grams of fat. I'm 1.83 / 72kg - took quite some time to drop 5kg but I like me weight now, good for the hills.

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Empire
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02 Apr 2008 20:07 #2331 by Empire

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i am taking 1 cap of pgw var as a bridge between courses and with my pct,havent started notice much effect as of yet but when i start my course of NPP,Test Prop i will be pushing up to 2 var caps daily,cant wait to see what it does for me....

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Rippedbig
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02 Apr 2008 20:33 #2333 by Rippedbig

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Doc says he is using var as it does not lower own test levels or sperm count.
Is it then safe to use var in between cycles even when doing PCT and not sacrifice the recovery of your own test levels?

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Empire
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02 Apr 2008 20:38 #2334 by Empire

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there was a post in one of the other threads where doc recommended low dosage var or 10mg of d-bol as a bridge,well i was told by a good friend made from this site,that i can take var whilst doing pct as ur test levels are not effected so your test levels will still be bumped up whilst doing your pct but u still remain anabolic...

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