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Um, but im scared of needles...
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I dont quite understand what you're looking for mate... Why would you want to increase bodyfat? What is it at now? Unless its below 4%, in which case it may hamper gains... Tho i doubt you're that low.
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Your diet and cardio are gonna be the key factors in losing weight, the gear will help keep you from losing muscle tissue, its not gonna do a whole lot for the fat lose.
What are you currently eating on a daily basis?
What does your training look like?
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What will happen you ask? You will get fatter if you go on that cycle.
Get your body-fat down to 10% or less then bulk. Cutting on long esters is tricky. Don't know of anyone that does that really.
Give us a breakdown of your current diet, meal for meal.
If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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or 250 ml fruit juice mid pm snack 1x yogisip or other lf drink yoguart or smoothie 340ml +1 small pkt prezels
supper 3 cups pasta +lf white cheese sauce +lean chopped ham 120g and 1/2 cup lf cheddar cheese or 250g lean meat or 1 can tuna + onion mushroom pepper etcto sauce + salad thats day 1 so similar to that
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ok here it is day 1 breakfast 6tbsp lf muesli + 2 cups coco pops or fruit loops + 1 cup lf yogurt + 3 tbsp rasins or dried cranberries mid am snack 2 piece of fruit any type or 1 large piece bannana or apple lunch 2 sandwhiches high fiber bread +any free veggies +1 tbsp chutney or mustard+4 slices lean cold meat eg chicken +1/2 cup ff cottage cheese
or 250 ml fruit juice mid pm snack 1x yogisip or other lf drink yoguart or smoothie 340ml +1 small pkt prezels
supper 3 cups pasta +lf white cheese sauce +lean chopped ham 120g and 1/2 cup lf cheddar cheese or 250g lean meat or 1 can tuna + onion mushroom pepper etcto sauce + salad thats day 1 so similar to that
Diet is not on par. Kak actually. You will see better results with a proper diet. Contact DJ to create a custom diet for you. See contact us link.
If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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Where is your protein? Where are your clean carbs?
Seriously, you need to get a diet done from scratch. Coco pops, fruit, yoghurt, sandwiches... Those arent doing anything for you. You gotta get things in there like oats for breakfast. Boiled eggs in the morning. Chicken, chicken, chicken... Brown rice...
Dont even bother now with juice, just sort out your diet properly (DJ on the forum can design you one for a fee) and you will make all the gains you need. A diet like that is the only thing holding you back now. Steroids are not necessary
Um, but im scared of needles...
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My friend do yourself a favour and please put the juice in the cupboard for the next six months, get a proper diet from either DJ on this forum or someone else and first see if you can stick with it for a while, also try and do either a four/five day split once a week as only one day of rest and 6 days of training is pushing it a bit and you might risk overtraining and setting you back another couple of months
Also, try to get your bf% to around 10%...aiming for 5% is unrealistic as its too low to build any solid muscle afaik
If you can stick to yout diet and training for six months then consider the juice again, but please also spend the next six months reading up on anything and everything you can find on cycles and everything that goes with it (your first three research items should be on PCT, PCT, PCT). I'm sure you seen alot of guys taking juice and after taking it they just "deflate" to original size...well the lack of a good pct (post cycle treatment) is the reason for that
This is my seeing on the whole thing, there is alot of guys on here with vast amounts of knowledge that will definately be able to guide you on your way to success
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ok here it is day 1 breakfast 6tbsp lf muesli + 2 cups coco pops or fruit loops + 1 cup lf yogurt + 3 tbsp rasins or dried cranberries mid am snack 2 piece of fruit any type or 1 large piece bannana or apple lunch 2 sandwhiches high fiber bread +any free veggies +1 tbsp chutney or mustard+4 slices lean cold meat eg chicken +1/2 cup ff cottage cheese
or 250 ml fruit juice mid pm snack 1x yogisip or other lf drink yoguart or smoothie 340ml +1 small pkt prezels
supper 3 cups pasta +lf white cheese sauce +lean chopped ham 120g and 1/2 cup lf cheddar cheese or 250g lean meat or 1 can tuna + onion mushroom pepper etcto sauce + salad thats day 1 so similar to that
bro are u joking? i will list what is wrong in you diet that needs to be changed!
muesli
coco pops or fruit loops
yogurt
sandwhiches high fiber bread
lean cold meat
fruit juice
yogisip or other lf drink yoguart or smoothie 340ml +1 small pkt prezels
lf white cheese sauce +lean chopped ham 120g and 1/2 cup lf cheddar cheese
bro u are getting in so many shit,actually really shit calories, there is to much shit fat in your diet,to much dairy,to much sugar,not enough complex carbs,not enough healthy fats and not enough protein...u are looking for no gains other than fat gains eating like that and also using nomasust is gonna take u even further backwards...
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Firstly if you do this cycle your body fat will probabbly jump to 20 and if you lucky you might even hit your weight and when you hit your weight you going to look like some fat kid.
Then you say oh shit, I let me diet down, and you can diet down to 5% bodyfat and you will probably weigh in at 70kgs.
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