A new trend ?

Well I don't know how new but have started noticing it becoming more common and that's running test a mid to low levels 250 to 500 a week and then running exotics higher eq deca etc.

Its always been common practise to run test higher than the rest to stave off sexual problems etc from shutdown,but as said it seems to be gaining popularity that running the lower doses you still harness tests anabolic properties at the same time keeping its sides down like bloat etc.I usually run 1200 odd a week and have run 2000 a week,my experience was increased bloat but I can't say a massive increase in gains.it wasn't for a long period of time so really shouldn't compare until run it for a decent length of time.but seems common belief is test over 1500 to be a waste in general.

Mmmmm 1200 is sweet though.

at the end of the day dude equi doesnt shut u down quite like deca and tren do so if your test is quite close to that of equi u will be fine,i wouldnt do that with a 19nor substance, rule of thumb when working with 19nor is your dose of tren/deca x 1.5-2.0 = test dose. so if u are using 300mg deca u need 450mg-600mg test.

No I am not going to run it like that lol just been noticing it more and more and funny on huge tren cycles,not gonna post the daily amounts of tren because even I am struggling to believe the truth in it.I will keep test at around a gram.but my eq is going to be high at around 1200 a week.

1200mg is not worth the sides,the anxiety and hunger doesnt warrant the high dose like that dude... 700mg is all u need dude.

Gearedup wrote:

No I am not going to run it like that lol just been noticing it more and more and funny on huge tren cycles,not gonna post the daily amounts of tren because even I am struggling to believe the truth in it.I will keep test at around a gram.but my eq is going to be high at around 1200 a week.

I ran EQ at 1ml eod for 2 weeks as a frontload and at the beginning of week 3 started experiencing some anxiety sides, tight chest etc. Just make sure you can spot the side when it comes around - its a pain in the arse.

BTW - ZERO hunger. i force myself to eat.

Thanks,I frontloaded last time at 1400 a week last time and didn't suffer much,ran 700 for 16 weeks and it didn't blow me away at all.been speaking to a few guys about same stats as me who run 1200 and seems to be the magic number with eq.I will frontload at 2100 for 2 weeks and keep a tight eye on sides guys .if I get the anxiety and loss of appetite I will reduce the amount to a 1000 and so on.

Thanks for the heads up though

jackrabbit1 wrote:

BTW - ZERO hunger. i force myself to eat.

grand pa jack are u following the bulk diet i sent u? that might be cos the fats are making u less hungry oh and the 100mg of orals daily might just kill your appetite

Gearedup wrote:

Thanks,I frontloaded last time at 1400 a week last time and didn't suffer much,ran 700 for 16 weeks and it didn't blow me away at all.been speaking to a few guys about same stats as me who run 1200 and seems to be the magic number with eq.I will frontload at 2100 for 2 weeks and keep a tight eye on sides guys .if I get the anxiety and loss of appetite I will reduce the amount to a 1000 and so on.

Thanks for the heads up though

i personally feel u are wasting your money at such high doses...

That's def a possibility dj,will see ,after running a lowish dose recently will have a direct comparason.this is my last large cycle ,and might be my last with eq if results similar or I just get increased sides.

After this one I am going to keep it simple and run test and tren e that's it,two compounds I know work extremly well with me even in moderate doses. Using up the remaining eq I have and giving it one last chance.with the odd 12 week exotic cutting cycle thrown in here and there.very keen on a tren ace test prop masteron type cycle.maybe early next year or very late this year.

Geared - what brand of EQ have you been using? Have you tried another brand to compare the results you get off another make. 1200mg sounds like alot of EQ to me. 400 - 600mg is usually an effective dose to get good results.I know of a few guys running lower doses than 700mg and have gotten really good results over 15weeks. Just a thought.

Hi msman ,I run pgw 350 eq,it definatly works,the hunger vascularity etc all kicked in for me last time round week 8.I think some people react to it very well ,alos know a few who have had fantastic results on 600 to 700 odd.general consensus is 700 to 1000 seems to be the most effective dose for the more experienced user.I am not sure if its just a suspect cycle history that I need higher doses of most compounds

I am currently bulking cycle about 1000mg and GHRP-6 with very low amounts of tren enanth (200mg per week)

i can without a doubt say that the GHRP-6 has been insane for appetite and i dont think i would run test without it again. after one week of usage for a person who had a shit appetite i eat every bucket loads every 3 hours.

Geared- I guess people react differently to EQ. Did some more research - seems 600mg/wk is the sweet spot for most.I guess if your a bigger guy with more muscle mass body may need more.I guess certain products work better for some than others.

Ive never used the Testen 300. 7 weeks does seem a while to kick in. I wonder how the testocyp250 compares to the testen300 with respect to kick in time and results - anyone finished a cycle with it to compare it?

I don't believe there will be any difference between the cyp or testen to be honest very similar,but you will start feeling it round week 3 to 4, week 6 to 7 is when most feel it fully.

You are correct 600 is good for most,my problem with dosages is not so much that I am a big guy.I started way way to young in my teens ,there wasn't much internet or info back then.even early 20's experimented with high doses of test 2g plus a week.so not sure if this has left me with the need for bigger doses to achieve the same results.

Plus not matter what I take from clen to eca to test I seem to have a very high tolerance level ,don't get much sides etc etc.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Gearedup wrote:

No I am not going to run it like that lol just been noticing it more and more and funny on huge tren cycles,not gonna post the daily amounts of tren because even I am struggling to believe the truth in it.I will keep test at around a gram.but my eq is going to be high at around 1200 a week.

I ran EQ at 1ml eod for 2 weeks as a frontload and at the beginning of week 3 started experiencing some anxiety sides, tight chest etc. Just make sure you can spot the side when it comes around - its a pain in the arse.

Man the anxiety of EQ at high doses, freakin insane!!!! And you lose your apitite too... Serious shooting over a gram a week of that stuff is hectic...

That's what I am most concerned about is the anxiety.but will play it by ear,will lower have no problem lowering dosage in line with sides.I enjoy being on cycle and if it becomes unpleasent especially emotionally will lower dosage till I find the sweet spot.

Lets hope you find that happy medium. I never used as a teen or in my early twenties but when it comes to things like ECA my body doesnt seem to respond at all. Ive used 3 Heat caps a day without much in terms of effect - no shaky hands etc. Test wise i stick to lower - medium doses. Im in no rush to get reach my goals - id rather take it slower and keep my gains easier. Might take longer but less in terms of damage to the body.

100 percent ,I do not enjoy the high doses,it costs a fortune for one,sides wise I can't really complain.but its a lot of oil and a lot of pokes.if your making strides on lower medium dose there is absolulty no reason to change what's working for you! If I am bulking I am happy with a kg or so a week with the odd plateu here and there.