IGF-1

Hey peeps,

I am looking at IGF-1. Your thoughts about this substance?

Thnx!

if u can get the proper protocol and legit stuff it does wonders...just enjoy the pregnant guy look....

LOL thnx DJ, do you get that even from 1 cycle at low doses?

No... It is great, cycle 21 (250mcg p/d) days on then off. Doesn't effect your mood which is great, once again have to wait for cells to grow for you to see the effects.

Most say stick to 80-100mcg per day in divided doses. 250 is moer high pump?

i still dont think that u are gonna get the correct protocol of this stuff off the net to be honest...no trainer in this country is really that clued up to get the most out of igf-1 but u guys can give it a bash..

I used IGF for many years and that is the dose I recomend. You can use anywhere between 100 -> 250mcg per day. I'm an extremest. Admin recons anywhere between 100 -> 200mcg pd.

To get the most out of IGF I say you need to stack it with GH and slin...

But GH & slin converts to IGF-1 in the body? So why use them when you have IGF?

Well the slin you need to run for the resistance caused by both hGH and IGF, running high for to long (even slightly high) aids in the risk of type 2 diabetes. You also benefit after a good session having perfectly timed your Slin to drive the glycogen and amino acids to your muscles.

IGF takes months to raise up to the point you are talking about from GH, we not talking about the release from the liver, so no running hGH will not raise the levels you are looking, hence the reason you wanting to take IGF on its own?

Big note: you cannot raise IGF levels without safely increasing GH levels too (some people say its like Russian rollet with your health)

So by it's own is a waste? I heard from Admin that IGF with a basic steroid cycle yields great results?

IGF is just like GH in the sense it creates new cells, those cells need to grow using anabolics will help speed up the time. Using anabolics will not help create any more cells, you need to use IGF if you have a reason to use it or just stick with hGH. Don't expect to see the IGF giving you better results to growth hormones.

My understanding is that GH is pretty weak if not used with slin and obviously you need to use it for at least 6 months. So with IGF the protocol would be 4-6weeks on & same off and repeat. For how long do you think Pump?

Catch yourself up on this page

www.getigf.com/

site113.mysite4now.com/tivoli2000/hgh.htm &

www.bodybuildingforyou.com/forums/anabol...illary-profiles.html

Read up on that to get a better understanding then i'll see where I can assist after that.

And here is probabbly the best and easiest way to understand why you need them both and one is waisted without the other..

www.igf1.net/igf-1-hgh.html

Thnx Pump!!

"IGF can also be effectively used by itself and gains will still be easily noticeable. With growth hormone you need to use high amounts of anabolics and often insulin to see any gains at all, this is not the case with IGF. IGF can be used by itself and is often used by bodybuilders who bridge between cycles, during this bridge is a good time to use IGF since it has no effect on natural testosterone production so it will therefore allow you to return to normal in terms of hormone levels. A stack of IGF, PGF2a, HCG, and clomid would be a good bridge stack and would allow your body to return to normal and still allow you to retain and make new gains"

Yup, hence the reason I am now moving to this drug as I need to move away from anabolics due to my health issues.. So I will be doing 21 days cycle.. 250mcg per day... Will look in a year or so if I can start adding anabolics, depending on what stage of recovery im at... Just make sure you have a testing kit (dischem has kits / blood sticks and monitor) and make sure you don't run high.

Wow Pump, they say you can run low while on IGF? This true and if it is what can you use to counter this? Thnx again!

If you run low you just counter it with a slow acting carb if you running very low push yourself out of the low with a coke or energade is very good, but pretty much any simple carb. Even some syrup can do the trick... However i don't invision running that low, keep a slow steady carb and you shouldn't have too much of an issue.. just keep a close eye on it!

Will do! Thnx as always!

IGF is one of those wonder drugs (on paper) we are not too sure just how effective it is. I gave a couple of mg to doctari and 5mg to a certain pro athlete. Doc gained nothing even when he switched from the chinese generic to Igtropin. The Ifbb pro gained 13Kg with that 5mg and become pregnant as well... lol, but he told me 3 days ago that his stomach shrunk back mostly. We all used the same batch with the same batch of acetic acid water.

Doc and the pro used 100mcg daily. I will not use less than 100mcg daily and keep cycles to 21 days.

I started 200mcg again yesterday, so lets see what gains I get. Zink supplementation is very helpful as well though.

Doc's review:

To be honest, I do not have any personal experience with MGF - so, whoever of you guys who have, talk to me about it, your dosages, ect !

IGF-LR3 - the time I used it, was about 2-3 years back and I was not impressed at all with the results of the Chinese generic 5 other athletes and I tested. None of them either had results...

So, until there are better quality products available, I will decline in using it. I did do a thorough research on it, though.... Normal dosages is in the region of 20mcg's - 80mcg's per 24 hours, usually used/injected within 15 minutes of training the "lagging" part. Some athletes would combine low dose PGF-2-alpha with it to enhance the inflammotory response. Most Pro's use it about 2-3 times per week - that's on their cycles of which I could get hold of.

It does give you some nausea and headache after injecting it. Some complain of upset stomachs.

It's important not to inject it into regions close to your gut, as IGF will lead to gut distension - that "King Kong bellie" look. You get severely marked down for that when you are on stage. Limit its use to delts, traps, arms and calves. Quads, lats and pecs are "grey areas".

There is a special way you can mix your unit with acetic acid solution to extend the use of the vial after reconstitution. I sent all that details to the administrator at www.anabolicsteroids.co.za - you can source it from him. I also sent them a large search result of academic stuff on IGF-LR3 - source it from him, if you are interested it that deeper academic knowledge..

Remember that IGF production suppresses further HGH secretion ? For that reason you cannot use your IGF shot close to your HGH shot.

Now, let us combine all this into some guy's training regime - hypothetically spoken...

- Arise in the morning, shoot 3iu's HGH + swallow 60 gr whey. Go about the normal three S's of your morning routine.
- Next shot of HGH later that morning accompanied by whey intake.
- Train in the afternoon with the "Golden Window" use of insulin.
- Shoot the IGF-LR3 site-specific within 30 min of stopping your training session of the site-specific muscle.
- Go home, eat and grow.
- Use HGH-secreting supplements I mentioned before you retire to bed...

Oh yeah, doc mentions 20mcg's - 80mcg but that is for the super pure stuff you can get for R4k+ per mg. The chinese stuff is more like 60% pure. Just be very careful, because some scammers will sell rat insulin labeled as IGF. IGF is a huge risk in buying even from trusted sources. I'm sure that even I've been scammed 80% of the time.

Thnx to Admin & Doc! Great post!!

Nice post! Thanks admin / doc

Funny I never got a swollen belly when I used it in the past. Is this supposed to be a perm side effect?