** Need Advise Please !! **

He probably injected in the wrong place hence the swelling of the lower back. Also depends on brand, if you got cheap stuff that was not sterile he could have got a bad infection.

I doubt that just nandrolone caused the issue, there must have been another factor involved and there are so many.
Non-sterile injection protocol is also famous for allot of issues.

If a guy gets sick from every course then he must just stop taking. Avoidance is also a solution.

Guys like that will take till they end up in hospital and then blame the steroids when they have been having perpetual issues and just ignoring them.

Agree with you about the Laymans Guide, Mick Heart is so full of himself and his theories on cycles are so damn old school they're laughable ....


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admin wrote:

Romp3L wrote:

BUT, he gets sick and stuff 3 weeks into ANY cycle. This is a fact, i have seen him in and out the gym the whole time. He is on Cyp and deca 300 now for 8 weeks or so. Its hard to get him good advice as he always wants to juice and never can stick in the gym long enough before getn sick.

If he gets sick every-time there is something wrong with him and he should have it checked out first. Maybe he is over doing training or he might even have AIDS.

Romp3L wrote:

I said it was in laymans which i got from this site. U guys are scared of orals sooo much but inject a shit load per week. I know the injectables arnt as liver toxic, but a guy from the gym once was hospitilised for using too much deca i in 1 week. Which too tell u the truth wasnt as much as i have seen senior guys give on cycle advice on this site.
I dont think it will f*ck u up though. Milk thistle and clomid as he said I think could do wonders.

I know the layman's guide is in the download section, but it is a useless book and the guys who wrote it is shit head anyway. That's why I said it should be removed....
How can you get hospitalized from deca? Maybe he stacked it with heroin? The senior guys here will know allot more that your average juice head from gym and most of us here have years of experience.
10 weeks of dianabol is not good. Period! We are not scared of orals, but we do care about our health. Milk Thistle is over rated and orals will still cause issues even on 300mg+ of MT. Clomid will do nothing about liver toxicity.

Romp3L wrote:

Have u guys even read it? U just read the forum and think its the only way? lol.
But thanks for the advice mate. And i do agree with ur 2nd paragraph.
Regards

Yes and it sucks. I have read many, many medical studies and other steroid guides.

Wow! Would never expect so many replies

Thanks everyone for all the information..
Really appreciate it!

I got mates my age that were on dbol and took Milk Thysil (however you spell it)

And their bodies look 100% and they said they feel 100%

seafood can look and and feel 100% but can kill u. the best and real test is to get blood tests done.ur mates that are ur ages and taking just dbol are stupid and need to do more research bud.

the damage is being done on the inside

what the hell, doubt you'll listen in any case.

STUPID STUPID STUPID

Oh god. . .

Milk Thistle on its own is great when you are natural and just want to "protect" your liver from. .. lets say. . . a friday night beer. My mom uses milk thistle.

Let your friends carry on for a bit. At the end of the year, ask them how their urine smells. After some good liver damage, that gets pushed up a couple notches.

You have no reason not to take the advice being given by the guys here, they are pro-gear. Not anti-gear. But at the end, its your body and your choice. But when you're facing the consequences of the path taken, don't blame the substance.