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15 Jun 2010 21:37 #46198 by Fakey_AK
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Hey guys

Im planning a eq cycle early next year. Will be using this thread for all my future eq q's. Here's my first one.

What test do u guys prefer with a long eq cycle. A single long ester test or a mix ester test?

thanx in advance

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15 Jun 2010 21:40 #46199 by Roozer
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Fakey i think it is all about personal choice and what works best with your body. I like to mix things up. So i would say going for a supertest will work great. How long do you want to run your eq and what dosage?

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15 Jun 2010 21:45 #46200 by Fakey_AK
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i was thinking of a 15 weeker.
week 1-5 350mg
week 6-15 525mg

the thing is with the test ester mix, i think ur best results coming from pinning eod, with can become a bitch on a 15 week cycle. And with the long ester twice a week is fine. but for best results im not sure

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15 Jun 2010 21:54 #46202 by Roozer
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well most guys say sweet spot on the equi is above 500mg. so if you wanna use pgw i would say rather hit 700mg, then it works out 3 bottles.

With a supertest 800mg. and long esters inside 2 pins a week it would work excellent. Otherwise maybe just do the enanthate if the doses look little high and you are not like me that you dont hate leaving some over for the next time. then hit the equi on 525mg and supertest on 640mg.

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15 Jun 2010 22:00 #46203 by Fakey_AK
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i was contenplating maybe hitting cyp @750 mg a week. see if i can get another bottle of eq. But i think i'll stay at 525mg. the whole anxiety thing at high dosages puts me of a little bit.

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15 Jun 2010 22:06 #46204 by milktuds
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I am running the Supertest at 640mg/week and it is sweet.

Go the Cyp route. 750mg cyp and 700mg EQ and an AI. Should pack on some decent size. Frontload the first two weeks with both compounds. No need to kick start with orals.

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15 Jun 2010 22:06 #46205 by Roozer
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Well definitely you have to do what you body responds to the best. I respond better to bigger doses. well i am doing the 750mg cyp and test ent 300mg a week. and it works like a charm.

But even budget wise the test cyp will work great. IMO test cyp works better than ent. cyp 750mg is superb

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15 Jun 2010 22:11 #46206 by Fakey_AK
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milktuds wrote:

I am running the Supertest at 640mg/week and it is sweet.

Go the Cyp route. 750mg cyp and 700mg EQ and an AI. Should pack on some decent size. Frontload the first two weeks with both compounds. No need to kick start with orals.

Never gone the frontload route before. What dosages would u recommend for that. As for the oral route im trying to steer clear ( i suck at remembering taking pills) :(

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15 Jun 2010 22:18 #46207 by milktuds
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You usually take double the dose, but you could probably use less if you want to.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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15 Jun 2010 22:19 #46208 by Roozer
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What about running prop 100mg EOD. Or what i would like maybe combining suspension and prop as frontload. Just that supsension is kak sore and waterbased. i used susp before never prop. Going to start prop in 3 weeks time.


Prop 100mg EOD week 1-4
Suspension 50mg-100mg ED week 1-4

That is my thoughts
Otherwise milks advice is best

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15 Jun 2010 22:24 #46209 by Fakey_AK
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Roozer wrote:

What about running prop 100mg EOD. Or what i would like maybe combining suspension and prop as frontload. Just that supsension is kak sore and waterbased. i used susp before never prop. Going to start prop in 3 weeks time.


Prop 100mg EOD week 1-4
Suspension 50mg-100mg ED week 1-4

That is my thoughts
Otherwise milks advice is best


yeah thats also another option. Im doing a prop, npp and masteron cycle in september. Will see how i feel after that cycle from the pinning and pain if im up for it again for my eq cycle.

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15 Jun 2010 22:28 #46210 by Roozer
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I like actually pinning EOD. i do it in the shoulders and there is no pain. Pain filters away about 30min after injection. And reason Why i like it is. The more i pin the more of a mental boost i get

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15 Jun 2010 22:29 #46211 by milktuds
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There should be no pain at all unless you are doing something wrong or injecting too fast.

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.
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15 Jun 2010 22:31 #46212 by Fakey_AK
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Roozer wrote:

I like actually pinning EOD. i do it in the shoulders and there is no pain. Pain filters away about 30min after injection. And reason Why i like it is. The more i pin the more of a mental boost i get

R u only rotating between ur two shoulders?

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15 Jun 2010 22:32 #46213 by Roozer
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Okay a better statement would be uhm the area is sensitive haha. no pain but its sensitive. Pinning is on the ball hahahaha

And always rotating.

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15 Jun 2010 22:35 #46214 by Fakey_AK
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milktuds wrote:

There should be no pain at all unless you are doing something wrong or injecting too fast.

I hear brother, funny thing is with my last supertest cycle, i had some injections that were bloody sore afterwards even 2 days later and other injections were painless. Weird :huh:

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15 Jun 2010 22:41 #46215 by milktuds
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Depends bro, are you doing the injections yourself? Could be that you are moving around when you've got the needle in you.

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15 Jun 2010 22:41 #46216 by Roozer
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Must be your body having mood swings haha my first ever pin in the shoulder was hev kak sore. but it gets use to it.

And guys is it just me or is activity on the forum getting slower and slower. Even INJA is missing. It is just not as busy as it used to be.

And back to the topic what is your guys opinion on injecting equi EOD. Wouldnt it reach a stable level much faster and we all know its a long ester. But with more frequent shots it would produce results quicker?

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15 Jun 2010 22:46 #46217 by Fakey_AK
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milktuds wrote:

Depends bro, are you doing the injections yourself? Could be that you are moving around when you've got the needle in you.

nah my wife pins me. u know, now that i think about it those times it was sore was the times i pissed her of! j/k but yah my be that. i still remember the one time when she pulled out the pin i had this stream of blood going down my legs. i shat myself.

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15 Jun 2010 23:12 #46219 by Roozer
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Fakey you know that minimal sex gives you nightmares and weird ass dreams :rotfl

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15 Jun 2010 23:16 #46220 by Fakey_AK
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Ja, nee kyk. Clown :P

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15 Jun 2010 23:28 #46223 by Roozer
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Hahahahaha Mens moet ontlas. Release and relax.

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15 Jun 2010 23:31 #46224 by Fakey_AK
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tel draad trek? :laugh:

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15 Jun 2010 23:50 #46225 by Roozer
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As jy dit nie elke aand doen nie. Dan dink ek daar is fout met jou hahahaha

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16 Jun 2010 10:17 #46228 by ABC01
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Roozer what size needle do you use for shoulder pinning? I was thinking maybe a 23G 1/2 inch should be fine. Do you actually get that size pin? (read about it on a site)

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