need help on anavar!!

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22 Jul 2010 21:14 #47900 by jackalas
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i am a pretty novice roid pusher and i am thinking of going onto a anavar cycle, i am currently on d bol and it has pumped me up quit a bit but i want to go into a cutting phase now. the reason i chose anavar is because i want to keep most of what i gain and i have heard it has amazing results in muscle development and strength gains. i am 1.86 meters tall weight 76kg and bf 15%. i just need some advice on whether or not anavar is a good choice and if so how much how often should i take? i have been training for two years now.

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23 Jul 2010 07:45 #47916 by Empire
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ummm bud i suggest u do some more reading cos its clear that u are a very novice roid pusher...dbol should only be taken for 4-6weeks and usually as the front load of a long ester test cycle. then u want to take another oral right after a very liver toxic oral? ummmm no. u need to come off the dbol and do a small pct,of clomid and kessar and then if u need some time off... the dbol will make u bloat with water so when u stop that u are gonna drop alot of size and that will be your cutting cycle started by the looks of things...what u have to realize is cutting is not about the drugs its about the diet and the cardio...

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23 Jul 2010 08:33 #47922 by jackrabbit1
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BTW - Pusher = Dealer/Runner.

Some liver detox as part of the PCT.

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25 Jul 2010 22:37 #48002 by Gio
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Hey boet, just wanted to enquire about anavar, coz a couple of guys have said that its a powerful oral that has minimal side-effects for an oral...is this true?

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26 Jul 2010 04:22 #48004 by Fakey_AK
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I wouldn't say its a powerfull oral. But when used at a proper dosage and period of time u will get decent results. And yes the sides r on the low side.

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26 Jul 2010 09:08 #48010 by Mr_SA
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Gio wrote:

Hey boet, just wanted to enquire about anavar, coz a couple of guys have said that its a powerful oral that has minimal side-effects for an oral...is this true?


80 - 100mg per day for 6 - 8 weeks.
It takes 21 days for Anavar to get into your system properly.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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26 Jul 2010 11:48 #48027 by Empire
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40-60mg daily for 6 weeks is a better plan in my books

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26 Jul 2010 13:59 #48050 by Romp3L
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I used var very recenlty and it is the poop. I love var alot.
Always get harder very faster on it and no sides for me thus far. I use my clomid and saw palmetto at the end and or during(because lets face it,there is usually prop,winny in ther at the time). I do believe in what DJ said bout u sounding v=ery novice still tho. var wont help in size gain and so on as u think tho. I never go in hoping to build or gain on var. Just to get shredded with all the other little helpers var needs to succeed...cardio,diet,eca,clan,t3...blah
U see just taking var for what ever reason the way u want is wasting money my friend.

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26 Jul 2010 17:14 #48079 by Barbell
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the pumps you get on Var are ridiculously painful, to a point where you battle to hit the heavier squats and dead lifts become increasingly difficult to complete....HIC (treadmill) virtually becomes impossible after 10 minutes...come to think of it even LIC is difficult...other than that it works ok but don`t expect massive gains... B)

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26 Jul 2010 18:22 #48083 by Netro
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As with any compound, you need to get to a dose that allows you to function properly. Pumps are hectic, but adjust accordingly to the point of being able to get through a workout.

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26 Jul 2010 18:38 #48084 by N3rd
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Barbell wrote:

the pumps you get on Var are ridiculously painful, to a point where you battle to hit the heavier squats and dead lifts become increasingly difficult to complete....HIC (treadmill) virtually becomes impossible after 10 minutes...come to think of it even LIC is difficult...other than that it works ok but don`t expect massive gains... B)

What dose did you use? Split throughout the day?

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26 Jul 2010 19:52 #48087 by Barbell
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N3rd wrote:

Barbell wrote:

the pumps you get on Var are ridiculously painful, to a point where you battle to hit the heavier squats and dead lifts become increasingly difficult to complete....HIC (treadmill) virtually becomes impossible after 10 minutes...come to think of it even LIC is difficult...other than that it works ok but don`t expect massive gains... B)

What dose did you use? Split throughout the day?


60-80g a day....split through the day...

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26 Jul 2010 19:55 #48088 by N3rd
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Did you taper up and down? From 60 to 80 and back to 60?
Length?

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27 Jul 2010 09:47 #48106 by Barbell
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N3rd wrote:

Did you taper up and down? From 60 to 80 and back to 60?
Length?


I went for 12 weeks....started of at 40 the up to sixty then up to 80 then back down to 60...if I remember correctly.. :laugh: I can`t argue with teh gains that I got, I knew Var wasn`t a gear that gives massive results so my expectations were not over the top...but the gains were solid and sustained. Did the cycle round about September odd last year.... B)

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27 Jul 2010 14:58 #48119 by N3rd
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What did you use it with?
Were you also using creatine?
When did the pumps become painful (week number?)?
Any kidney/liver probs or pains?

Thanx for your response so far :) I'm doing this to give people info...

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27 Jul 2010 15:30 #48125 by Barbell
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N3rd wrote:

What did you use it with?
Were you also using creatine?
When did the pumps become painful (week number?)?
Any kidney/liver probs or pains?

Thanx for your response so far :) I'm doing this to give people info...


no prob..I was using creatine, glutamine and whey and a multivitamin...drank a lot of water during the day, probably about 2/3 litres a day. Also supplemented with milk thistle and I also use essentialles because they have phospho lipids so it seemed essential (haha)...no liver problems whatsoever but I also never tested HDL levels etc. Kidneys Im not to sure about. The pumps always started at the lower back and then as I carried on a session it moved right up my back muscles to my traps. Out of gym I can`t really say kidneys gave me hassles but teh pumps might have disguised anything...if you know what I mean.... as for when the pumps started....secondhalf of the 12 weeks probably from 8 weeks on wards...kind of increased in intensity as the cycle came to a close...


Hope this helps... B)

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01 Aug 2010 12:16 #48291 by Muscleaddict
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Hey guys, I'm surprised nobody has told jackalas to look at his diet and training first before getting into roids. After 2 years of training if you are still only 76kg at 1.86 you aren't doing either properly and I mean this is the nicest way possible bro. Roids are not a wonder 'get huge drug' unless your diet and training regiment are waxed. Otherwise you will lose your gains.

I was a lightweight hard gainer before I started training so I know where you're at. I was 64kg at 1.73m when I picked up my first dumbell and put on 13kg of good mass in about 18 months before I started juicing from eating loads and training with experienced guys.

You honestly don't need roids yet to get a good build but since you are already on them I'm sure many guys here could help with your diet & training routine. Once that is in check you can expect massive gains from roids.

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