Testosterone issues

I put together a course with 500mg sustanon per week as a base.

Everything went well, except for every injection of sustanon, which hurt like hell and caused swelling, redness and lots of water retention at the injection site. It would last for a week to 10 days. After about 4 weeks, I decided to switch over to propionate, but it had much the same result. What seems like inflammation got too painful for me to train despite all the painkillers and anti-inflammatories. I took 1 shot of test-suspension but by that time I had no "pain-free" injection site. I finished the last 6 weeks of the course using only anabolics (all injectables, and without any pain at the injection sites).

(Got my gear on prescription and purchased at a pharmacy; no too concerned about it being fake.)

Can anyone identify with these symptoms? Can it be high benzyl alcohol levels? This was never the case before when I used testosterone. I diluted the injections with oil on a 1:1 basis, but that didn't help much. What would be the best substance to dilute the testosterone with?

How many cycles have you done before?
Where did you inject?
What kind of oil did you use to dilute it with?

Can't say I've kept count over the past 12 years. This was my first cycle in 18 months after sustaining a full pec tear (on which I will post in the training section, lots of issues!)

The injury came a couple of months after a test prop & tren cycle on which I experienced similar issues with the test prop.

Back in the day, I would run on 2 grams of test enanthate (coming from that big ass 200ml plastic bottle) without any issues.

Injections were administered in delts, triceps and glutes.

Was also running laurabolin and boldenone at 500mg per week and mixed the test with both.

Taking suggestions from various discussion boards,first tried benzyl benzoate but couldnot find a sterile source so ended up using grapeseed oil and sweet oil. I was rather uncomfortable with the whole cutting process, but the pain was intense.

Thanks

Ok, so you are no stranger to steroids... 2 grams of Ropel is a shit load of oil, so it cant be that you are injecting too much oil.

Was thinking of trying enanthate on the next round, but I first want to get to the bottom of this whole issue.

I read the thread on how to avoid injection pain, but I've seen it before. Good information though.

Any new inputs or recommendations will be great.

Maybe you're allergic to something. Don't know, sounds weird.

Allergic to the ester?

Do you think the propionate ester could be the culprit?

I would through some cash behind that problem and get the possibility of an allergy tested, but doubt such a test is available. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

I can't see myself running high mg's of test suspension.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Allergic to the ester?

No man, the alcohol or something or oil. Fuck knows.

Hi Guys,

My mate and I ran our last cycles together. We used Supertest and Equi. Eventually he went onto PCT early because he couldn't handle the pain a day or two following the injections. It sounds exactly like the symptoms you experienced. It would also last about 7 days with him.

We injected exactly the same amount on the same days and in the same way. He experienced tons of pain and I didn't. The only thing we can put it down to is some sort of allergic reaction.

He's actually been put of using gear again because of this.
He knows a strictly oral cycle is not a good idea.

I know this doesn't help much but at least you know you're not the only one.

So I went back to the drawing board and started planning a new cycle.

I will get back on test enanthate as I ran high dosages of that previously without any problems. I'm in 2 minds on taking testoviron as I'm not sure if the high mg/ml is the actual cause of the pain and inflammation. I'm not too keen on the lower mg/ml, can't take as much oil as I used to. Still, Ropel is good bang for your buck.

Haven't given much thought to the rest of the stack, but once the juice gets flowing, I will post my expenrience with the test enanthate.

Have you used a prop ester before?

Prop is notoriously painful and there is prop in the sustanon.
I don't think its a BA problem if you're using pharma grade

My first cycle ever was prop and could barely walk. Cutting it with GSO 1:1 made a huge difference.

After that your body seems to get used to the ester and have been fine on subsequent cycles-prop is now my fav test.

You can always get some syringe filters and filter your own GSO to cut it with

This was the second cycle using prop and yes have much the same issues taking sustanon.

I used GSO to cut but it's not sterile which is a concern to me. I wasn't able to source a sterile cutting oil, or filters for that matter.

I've read about cutting with Benzyl Benzoate, but the stuff you find in a pharmacy looks terrible, like a white cream in a plastic bottle. I don't think that's a good idea.

I also had the same problem with prop once. I found that adding GSO and also heating the mix up in the microwave helped reduce the pain. I have always put the cause of the pain down to the BA content of the prop, because certain brands cause pain and others don't. If it was an allergic reaction to the prop ester I would have experienced pain with all the brands.

Did you filter the GSO; and no concerns with it not being sterile?

I got the same reaction from Sustanon (high BA content) that's why I cannot pin it too BA or the ester.

I was worried about the GSO not being sterile but I took the risk and it worked out fine. I don't know if its possible to filter oils without fancy equipment. You could always extract the oil into a syringe and put it in boiling water - might help kill off any bacteria in the oil.

hi all,

sorry to hi-jack, but which is the best way to intect prop, ive got a vial of axio prop 100 and i want to inject in my shoulder, but after readin this im kinda kak scared, i have no pain with deca, nor testoviron.

a friend of mine is also kaking after injecting super test 320m is there any sort of remedy for pain? or jus man up and take it as it comes?

thanks all, and sorry for the hi-jack.
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