ive just got super test 320,

if anyone can help me ive just heard about this site and that it help alot when you need some advice. im a newbie sort of, just got super test 320 ive used suspension and anaplon before, lost everything i had! i now weigh 74kg and aiming for 84kg, must i get something to use with the super test or is it fine to use it on its own?

Well, lets start at the beginning... What do you know about PCT?

nothing at all...

ive only used anaplon and suspension, the anaplon made me gain alot of power! and after my cycle i stoped working out, and then i lost everything i had, im a skinny little guy now about 1,78 and 74kg

filter wrote: if anyone can help me ive just heard about this site and that it help alot when you need some advice. im a newbie sort of, just got super test 320 ive used suspension and anaplon before, lost everything i had! i now weigh 74kg and aiming for 84kg, must i get something to use with the super test or is it fine to use it on its own?

Hey Filter, how long ago did you do you last cycle? reason why I'm asking is without PCT post cycle you would of f_cked up you testicular axis,and your hormones probably haven't leveled currently, also what does you diet look like, and how long you been training after the break you had?

Well with that question answered we know where lies your problem. Go and read as much as you can on PCT. Lack of PCT accounts for all your gains disappearing, that and obviously stopping training. I think you have alot to learn before touching steroids again, who knows what damage has already been done. Whats your age?

im 21 years old ive used the suspention last year june, didnt take any thing with it, ive used the anaplon last year december, only took 20 pils it realy works good for me! i havent worked out from december til july2010, my dieet isnt that bad, when im on a cycle i realy stick to a good one i try to take in alot of carbs and protein- lean meat and rice or pasta, tuna and fish, i dont realy get any fruits in and i dont eat any faty foods or fast foods when im on my cycle. i try to get atleast 4liters of water in every day when im on my cycle.

whats this testicular axis, and what does it mean? ive ben training for almost 3weeks now,

i will try to explain, but do your own research....


The hypothalmus (the "H") sends a hormonal signal to the pituitary gland (the "P"), which in turn generates the LH that signals the testes (the "T") to generate testosterone. If your test levels in your blood exceed a predetermined amount (as dictated by your genetics, I suppose), the H part of the axis does not call for more test. Once the test levels in the blood fall below another level, the H part of the system kicks into gear to get the process started.

If you're supplementing with exogenous test, your H is never telling your P to signal the T in the HPTA, and thus your testes are not working to do their normal job because they don't need to. Over time this can result in testicular shrinkage. Many people use HCG which acts like LH to trigger the testes to form test. Some people who have problems with low test have problems with their thresholds, and some people have problems with their testes such that they don't generate sufficient test even though LH is signalling for additional production.

Nicely said Morphosis, very easy to understand and to the point, have some karma.

00pump wrote: Nicely said Morphosis, very easy to understand and to the point, have some karma.

I second!

Nice Morph.
Ok filter, well your first use of steroids was pretty poorly done. Anapolan is not to be used alone, and yes, it would have given you nice gains, but the majority of them would be water retention. On top of all this you are too young to be using steroids at all, you need to wait a few more years, and in that time you need to train correctly and routinely. Your diet sounds far from decent, lay it out in detail for us...
Stay on the site and read as much as you can to improve your knowledge so that next time you dont repeat the stupid mistakes you've made

morph, now you just scared the living S#it out of me, but i apreciate it thanx alot! so what must i do now go see a doctor, to see if im stil oky?
what age is good to start with riods, ive heard about alot of guys that have used riods since they were 16?? including arnold... is there something else i can maybe use that is less harmfull to me, that stil ensures mucle gain?
im realy tired of being a small guy and i just thougt that riods mite be a good idea.
my dieet consist out of 5 meals a day when im on a cycle, i heard that the dieet is the most important factor.... i realy stick to it when im on my cycle
morning- oat meal
branch- 2 raw egs and 2 skices of bread with either mince or corned meat
lunch- fish or steak with rice or pasta, patatoes and a smal salad
tea time- a meal replacement shake or 4 raw eggs mixed with milo
dinner- skin less chicken with patatoes or rice, and sometimes a bit of bread

filter wrote: 4 raw eggs mixed with milo

sounds scrumptious ...

To be honest you shouldnt be using steroids before the age of 24/25 at least. Before that and your natural test production is at its highest, and your body is so much more sensitive to hormonal changes.

Im afraid that, as much as that might seem like a good diet to you, it could still use ALOT of work. Speak to DJ on this forum, you can email him from the "contact us" section, as he designs and sells custom diets guaranteed to work. If you make the right changes in your diet, use the correct supplementation and train properly you will definately grow. Then in a few years once you reach a major plateau you can look into using steroids again, and properly this time.

As for seeing a doctor, i dont think thats entirely necessary. How long ago did you do those cycles? Fortunately your body is still young and robust enough to eventually return to its natural balance.

Everyone is very correct in what they saying, but nobody can stop you from Taking anything, yes 21 is young however its a legal age on this forum to provide advice. The first part of this advice is you are to young and inexperienced and you can provide some serious damage to your body if you don't know what you doing.

Spend some time reading this site and trying to understand as much as you can. Then maybe update this thread with your findings and providing the best possible cycle layout and diet you can achieve and let us take it from there.

morning- oat meal :----> where is your protein?? how many grams of oats are you having.
branch- 2 raw egs and 2 skices of bread with either mince or corned meat ---> how much mince???? get rid of the bread and use sweet potato.
lunch- fish or steak with rice or pasta, patatoes and a smal salad---> how much fish,3 hake fillets should be minimum
tea time- a meal replacement shake or 4 raw eggs mixed with milo ---> rather use whey here ,skip the milo!
dinner- skin less chicken with patatoes or rice, and sometimes a bit of bread ----> should have no carbs in this meal!

you need another 2-3 meals in your diet aswell consisting of protein,and fats and veg!

is the suer test realy going to cause so much damage if i only use 1ml a week fo 6 weeks? its just im a student now and im never gona have as much time for working out again in my life, after next year i have finished my studies so wont realy think of using steriod sgain in my life.. il have a look at the dieet thanks DJ for ure advice im not the bigest eater ican tel you my portions of meat are decent 200-300g i realy dont know if im able to get in another 2-3 meals plus the 5 im already having thats alot! but il have a go at it

spike the last cycle was anaplon and was almost 10 months back..

bro at the end of the day,drop the juice,spend the money on food,u cant grow nicely with out food..learn to feed yourself!

i agree with dj on this one. drop the juice. You're looking for a quick fix and you're not gonna find it. Without proper eating you gonna be wasting time and money on that supertest. And anyway, 1ml a week for 6 weeks isnt gonna do a thing for you... you'd grow more on a proper diet and some simple supplements like creatine and whey