Advice

Hi
I am thinking of starting a course, been gyming for about 3 years on and off but been big into it recently the last year, feeling good.
I am 1.93m tall and weight 103kg's, I am trying to get a good overall shape to my body,increase strength, and loose my stomach I am currently using just whey protein and eating right.
What sort of roids should I start with as a beginner and also what is the avergage sort of prices I should budget in?I am also keen on taking it orally for now, but worried about the side effects that so many people say you get.I have spoken to many guys at gym about what to take,but get all sorts of advice from every person
Apologise for my ignorance, I have been reading the website too to find out more

Thanks

Hey bud.
welcome to the forum!

Best advice that i can give you right now is this:

1. RESEARCH
2. RESEARCH
3. RESEARCH

Oral only cycles are not the way to go. If you're really keen to do a cycle, it should be a testosterone ONLY cycle.

Check out a sticky entitled 'what a 1st cycle should look like - this will help you tremendously.

Oh - check out the forum rules too - prices are not discussed, neither are sources...

Ill wait for the vets to chime in...

Good luck

Peace...

Thanks Rowan

Will do all the reserach I can, oops sorry about the price question, feel stupid cuz I read the rules too....hope I dont get my account deactivated

Cheers and thanks

No worries bud.

We've all been where you are right now, so dont fret.

p.s - there's a 'contact us' tab somewhere on the site. Send admin an e-mail and he'll send you info on what you're looking for.

diet,diet,diet and more diet,what does yours currently look like?

Hey DJ

Thanks, my diet currently.....

Wake up - whey protein shake, oats and 5 egg whites
Mid Morning - Pilchards or egg whites or fat free cotage cheese on rye bread
Luch - either brown rice & tuna or skinless chicken breast
Mid Afternoon - whey protein shake
Dinner - either fish with veg or chicken of some sort, normally a breast

Dinner is normally the most difficult to stick to as I stay with the Mrs and my eating plan doesnt always go down well with her
On the weekends I tend to "cheat" a bit but still control what I eat

and when do you train ?
what do you use for pre-and post-workout ?
try getting lots of carbs before workout ..
lots of protein after workout and good carbs like bananas and avo's to get those aminos to ur muscles....

that diet is where you are going wrong.

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Hi 00pump

Thanks, I will look through the rules again, my apologies

Hi Victor.jardim

I train in the afternoons after work, I was taking creapump before workouts but havent had it for a while now.
For post work out I have a whey protein shake

Thanks for the advice there as every bit will really help me better myself

DJ,

am i not eating enough or is it just the wrong types of food?
I know that chicken is high in protein and fish too, maybe try getting more carbs?

yes but u need to double the amount of chicken and fish u are taking in,add in better quality foods,pilchards and bread = no no. chicken,fish,eggs,red meat,whey protein = yes
carbs potatos,sweet potatos,mealie meal,oats,rice is yes...fats = nuts and peanut butter = yes.

Sorry, not meaning to thread jack...
DJ...so mealie meal is fine? It is a good idea to eat some good ole pap in the mornings for your carbs? Is its GI lower or higher than oats?

Oats have a lower GI...

Is it true that I should not eat carbs at night, especially is I want to flatten and harden my stomach? Really battling in that department, I usually do another half an hour of cardio after ive hit the weights and do abs reguarly.

DJ would be better to answer this however, I find if you want to get ripped, limit carbs after 5 and rather stick to mix veggies and a solid portion of protein.

well dude your diet is your down fall,if u need a custom diet u can contact me from the top of the page under the contact us page but i do charge

i have developed a wheat allergy some how and i can no longer eat oats i have had to move over to mealie meal in the mornings,its very tasty and lower in fats than oats...less fiber though but thats why u add in veg to the diet in the rest of the day.

funny enough u can have carbs all the way up to the time u sleep but i wouldnt suggest it personally,look i think the fact that u are not loosing the belly comes from a couple things,i personally think you are starving the body,leptin levels are low and the body is holding on to all the fatty tissue, the food choices are wrong,not enough proteins not enough good fats....

Wow, thanks you guys are really knowledgable and all this time I thought I was getting the hang of thigs and getting my diet right, advice from mates and guys @ gym.
I'm eating like 5 times a day though, but like you say DJ....the wrong types, etc
Should I eat more often than 5 times a day
I'm just really wanna get it right now and make some progress, was wanting to be able to see a slight difference by December:( guess not

Can I contact you then for a diet and get the details, etc?

Dude, it's like asking a computer guy to explain whats wrong on your network, you need to know the ins and outs to be able to properly understand things. You have learnt things but mainly bad things that have lead you astray.

TRUST ME WHEN I SAY THIS... Spend the few bucks and get a diet suited for yourself that DJ will adjust as time goes on. You cannot use the same diet today as you would in 3 months time. As you body fat adjusts so will your diet and depending on energy levels different things will be included or removed.

You will not find a diet for the price you will get it from DJ. I have focused on nutrition for close on 10 years now and will still ask him to read over anything I am thinking of doing. Spend the couple rand and achieve your results or else you will be having this problem 5 years down the line.

The same is true with many people I know who use steroids, they use steroids but they never look different, mainly because of life style choices and lack of information when it comes to eating.

Yes a steroid novice with a fast metabolism can nearly consume what ever he wants and stay ripped and put on size. However as we get older our bodies become slow and our life style changes, it's so much easier to go buy a coke from a shop when you stop for petrol than it was when you a child asking your parents if they will buy you one and hearing a plain no.

Some interesting info on mielie pap. If you let it cool down till its cold and warm it up in the microwave it lowers the GI. Please don't ask me how it works but it does indeed work.

It is the same as oats, if you slow cook it.