Really sore Glute after injecting - please help!

Hi,

A friend and I decided to go on a 10 week course of Dianabol, Test 300 and Equipoise.
Its a weekly injection of:
- 1 ml Equipoise
- 2 ml test 300
- B12

Now this is my first time taking steroids, whereas my mate has taken it before.
On Friday, I had my first injection and on Saterday, My right bum cheek was f*cking sore - well sore enough to make you limp a bit when you walk and sore enough to hardly sit / lie on.
I can sit on the sore bum cheek, but i have to slowly lean weight on it untill it gets used to the position I am in.
Driving around is seriously sore because of the cornering and bumps on the road.

I've been taking disprin to ease the pain and today (monday) its still very sore!
I would say its a little bit better than saterday morning.

So today I spoke to 2 people who have been in the game for a while just ask for their opinion of my situation and why my bum is so sore.

The 1 person said it could be from when I by mistake "flinched" my bum cheek during the injection.
and that maybe the needle tore a bit of muscle from the flinch or flex that I did.
Now in your opinion, could it be this???

Another guy reckons that maybe my dosage of test is too high and that I should split my injections into twice a week (of course with each injection dosage been half)
Do you think the reason why my bum cheek is so sore, is from high dosage?

I'm scared about the next injection, which is this Friday, because if this happens to my other bum cheek, them im really gonna be in pain.

I don't want to give up on the course so soon, but at the same time I don't want to be in pain like this after each injection.
I know the very first time you get injected, you will feel a little more pain, but I don't think it should be this bad?

The 1 I spoke to today told me if it doesn't get better by thurs then i should see a doctor and get a prescription of probably anti-biotics.

Who has been in this situation before?
Could in be my mate who injected it into me?
(he did do it in the right place and the needle all the way in)

I really appreciate your help, thanks!!

shake up all the contents of the syringe untill mixed thoughly that and man the fuck up ,its not like u just had your leg amputated its abit of injection pain

What brands are you using?

the 1 guy I spoke to asked if I shaken up the either the bottle or syringe. and i Don't think we did!
So you reckon, once all the steroids are in the injection, you must give it a good shake and mix it all up?
You think this caused the pain?

I've just been feeling the lumps and its not like its 1 lump where the syringe was injected. but a few around the area where my mate injected.
(for your information)

Yes, its not like I've had an amputation but it serioulsy feels like someones shot me in the ass with a shotgun.
I'm not exaggerating too. I understand it will be tender - i mean ive had injections before and the bruise is a little sore.
BUT THIS is crazy!
It agony getting in and out of my car! It fucking sore just trying to put socks on!
I definitly can't gym or train with this pain too.
So I just need you to understand how painfull this is.
BUT my biggest concern is the NEXT injection! This is why I need answers so that the next injection doesn't give me the same crap.

Im using PGW products ...

When did you receive them?

I had exactly the same problem when i first started warm the amps in some hot water before you draw, and after the shot massage the injection site to distribute the fluid nice and evenly. A nice hot shower afterwards also help a bit But thats just the beginning after that you become so used (ie no pain unless you fuck up) to it its not a problem anymore. Just remember to rotate your injection sites

I received the products on the day I injected it ...
You see I did massage the spot where the injection went in for only a brief moment. like 15 seconds
After the injection, How long must I rub / massage the area for?

I mean my mate injected at the same time and same way as me and his bum isn't fucked!
Then again, he has injected before.
Dirtgreeff - your 2nd injection was in the other cheek? and it wasn't so sore?

You see, of course the other bum cheek is going to be injected, so the problem is that THAT bum cheek is getting its first injection.
Or do you mean when I get "used" to it - you mean my body get used to it and not the injection site?
I assume you mean the injection site ...

If you followed proper procedure and can rule out any absess etc you can ascribe this pain to your "virgin ass"!
Trans-act plasters/Voltaren Gel/Voltaren 100 or any other/Myprodol. Massage with the Gel.
Your buddies are right - split the dose to bi-weekly injections - 3ml for a first-timer is harsh.
I couldn't walk the first couple of shots - TestSusp/WinnySusp - man that was sore.
The remedies above is the only ones that worked for me. It gets better - dont give up.
BTW make sure your buddies are doing the right thing!

You had your shot on Sat - use it as a front-load and inject 1ml TestE + 0.5 ml EQ tomorrow. Do the same on Sat again.

I had my first shot on Friday by the way!

Ok so you reckon the amount im taking is hurting me and not the actual injection needle?
I seriously need to think about this and definitly need to talk to my mate who injected me as he knows more about those "remedies" you mentioned. These remedies are for when you ass cheek is in pain? Like I said, I'm taking 2 strong disprins 3 times a day, and its helping me with the pain so far.

My mate thought that maybe I should leave out the B12 in my next injection ...

Do that, leave the B12 and just inject the oil. Draw them and leave for about 20 mins so they can mix, see how that goes. Make sure you are sterile and swap the needles, one to draw and one to inject. Equi and test should go through a 23G needle easily and tell you bud to inject at 90 deg to the skin and no movement and the muscle must be relaxed, Inject slowly and leave the needle in for about 20 secs after you have pushed all the oil in. Message the area and try all teh other tips as well.

I am using a 22G needle.
Ok so you guys reckon:

- I should do this course, but take the needle twice a week - each injection: 1ml TestE + 0.5 ml EQ,
- leave the B12 out of the injections - maybe take B12 pills?
- mix the contents inside the injections well (shake the syringe?), leave for about 20 min.
- Warm the amps in some hot water before injection
- What else?

Just bugs me that my mate did it and he's fine (and he didn't do any "warm-ups" - he left the B12 in and didn't mix the contents up)
Only difference is that he's done this before. I spoke to him today and his ass is fine.
Just can't understand why I am hurting so much more than he is. I hear that many mates 1st times weren't this bad.

Oh and yes, we do use different needles to draw and inject. We do inject it in quite slowly too
Ntero, You said make sure your muscles are relaxed ... if you see in my first post that i by mistake flexed my bum muscle when the needle was in.
Can we rule that out to be the cause of the pain?

It could be that, but I would not mix oil and water until you are more experienced. Thing is the B12 stings and that could be the cause as it pushes through the needle allot easier.

A fiend and i started some PGW test E about 2months ago, my first shot was painful but not major just irritating! His first shot(and a couple more after) he bitched every single day about exactly the same thing.. probably just depends on the person and people who experience pain will have to take measures to try decrease it.. the more i shot test the less the pain got

i get injection pain from enanth but i've gotten use to it its just annoying thats all nothing much, but the other day i mixed enanth and b complex im use to using b12 with enanth. took a quad shot as usual... my body rejected the b complex as far as i can tell coz its a new substance and it honestly killed me the pain was unbearable, even whilst injecting i cud feel it going thru my muscle within seconds it was hectic days! i kno i had done correct injection protocol, i mean i hav done it soooooo many tyms...plus my sister a doc! i looked around and all i could find was it was either infection or my body rejected the bcomplex for sum reason! my leg swelled a bit but not only in my quad the swelling dropped down aswel after a few days to my calf and ankle(coz of gravity with walking etc)! i kno for a fact it cudnt hav been infection as it wasnt hot, was red tho but i am way to clean with everything! i use seperate needles wipe the tops of the vials with spirits and also my leg and swap needles for pining. it got to the point that my leg was almost impossible to move my leg then within 4days gone back to normal! looked thru sum notes of my sisters and looked online and it isnt uncommon for a persons body to reject sumthing its not use to!

Alright well today, I can feel that my ass cheek is getting better!
After a bath lastnite I rubbed some vicks to help with inflamation and that possibly helped a lot.

Thanks guys for all your Posts.
My mate who injected me has read this thread too and we are deciding to lessen the dosage this Friday and leave out the B12 ... as well as all your tips with mixing and warming etc.
I wonder if my body rejected the B12, like what Tiburon had experienced?
Well this is my 4th day and the pain is still pretty shit! But the main thing is that it is getting better.
Gees I am THIS close to giving up on doing course!

Another thing:
I had to get liposuction under my nipples (about 4 years ago) as I had fatty deposits underneight them from Eating too much shit, including a lot of rubbish and fat too (I forced food down to put on weight, as I was desperate to put on weight - was putting almost 1.5kg's a week)
So my other question I would like to ask is, if you have been prone to getting Bitch tit (in my case, a type of bitch tit - fatty deposits) before, do you think its a bad idea for me to go on this course?
Does PCT really saught things out?
Like the last thing I wan't is Bitch tit!

You need to keep a good AI on hand to combat this when the signs first start to arise. It's allot easier to nip it in the butt when it's just starting than leaving it and it develops to lumps etc.

Netro: I assume AI means Anti-Inflammatry?
Yes, the vicks is actually working very well! I think this could be helping me recover quite quickly.
Because SAT, SUN and MON were hell ... I didn't really feel like i was getting much better ... then I started using vicks for the inflammatry and since then,
i've woken up with my cheek feeling much better. I'm predicting by friday I'll be comfortable enough to train (not legs) and by Sunday I'll be 100% better.
We will see.
This Friday, I will injecting with a less dosage and without the B12 with all the tips you guys have given!
For some reason I feel more confident with this next injection and that I won't get the ASS FROM HELL like ive currently been experiencing!

What about putting some anit-inflammatry cream on straight after you inject?

AI = aromatize inhibiter.
Voltaren Gel is antiinflamatory and worked for me. TRY IT.

Oh, So have some AI ready for potential bitch tit - I see.
You can get this from the pharmacy?

I'll get some Voltaren Gel ASAP.
With my course though ... what do you think the chances of getting a small case of bitch tit is?
Even though the PCT will saught it out afterwards.

I hope to add some value to this as I've had a similar experience lately.
I have taken before on numerous occasions and consider my ass not be a virgin one.

I started my TestSusp/WinnySusp course about two backs and had the same experience : my ass was extremely sore. Then the next injection, the other side was also sore. Can't walk, can't sit, just awful. The next shot I took in the quad (my ass couldn't take it anymore). Same thing. I was taking shots EoD.

I tried massaging, before and afterwards, notihng worked.

The next one I took in the gluete again and it was totally fine. The only change in my procedure was that with the other shots, I took it about an hour before exercise, and the muscles work during any gym day.

With the shot I took that it was not sore, it was about 4hours or so before gym and I relaxed and tried to use the muscle to a limited extent.

So try taking the shot when you won't be too active for a couple of hours after it.

I would like to hear the more experienced guys comments on taking suspension right before exercise or a couple of hours before it. I'm seeing the same results with a longer period before my exercise than with right before it.
With the esters having a much longer lifetime I could see no problem injecting say before going to bed, but with Suspension ?

Conclusion : Keep some stress off of the muscle you injected into, atleast for a couple of hours.

PS : I also upped my dosage of the Test Suspension and it actually hurt less with this method I'm using.

So you say your friend gives you a shot in the ass then you give him one??? Only kidding. I know the first shot is shit painfull but just make sure you do everything right and you will get used to the pain. Nothing you do will make it painless. People think that gear is the quick easy fix to build muscle, but there is no easy way.Pain and sacrifice is part of the game, and so are the risks. If you carry on you will find the little trick that makes it a bit better for you, just like all the guys that posted advise did.

Its not easy bud, its harder than doing it naturally,you must decide if you can handle it for the duration of your cycle or not...:huh:

Good luck.