Albuterol vs. Clen

Actually I didn't read that, but I spoke to Doctari a few days ago and he said that Tren basically accelerates thyroid activity and if you supplement with high doses of T3 it could be harmful. I'm not 100% sure how it fits together and what harm can be done, but I took his advice to only supplement with one T3 tab per day.

I'm currently on 1.5g Test E, 450mg Tren E per week. 2 HEAT, 1 Fusion ECA (Netro gave me a sample...), 20mcg T3, 160mcg Clen, 3mg Ketotifen and then 0.5mg Letro (Needs 2 months to become effective)... will also add Anavar and Proviron later when I get closer to my target date to harden up.

The reason for my extreme use of stimulants and very restricted diet is because I missed the ideal date to start cutting and now I have to take a few risks to hopefully still reach my goals at my target date.

The above combination can be very dangerous and it is far from ideal, so no one should try that. Basically, I fucked up on my timing and now I'm in a tight spot...

Oh yeah, I'm defiantly loosing fat, but then again... I'm loosing everything, even my mind... I bliksemed a cow this morining that kaked on me...

Muscle seems to be ok though, the tren and test should help to minimize muscle catabolism.

Phantom did these pills make you drowsy at all?
i took 1 this morning and another at 11 and another now at 3, only really feeling something now.

admin wrote:

I'm loosing everything, even my mind... I bliksemed a cow this morining that kaked on me...

Bwahahaha Damn that's funny :laugh: :laugh:

Roid rage on the farm..... lol thats the funniest shit I have heard in ages- made my day bro!!:laugh:

admin wrote:

1 Fusion ECA ...

How u finding the fusion?

Fusion is good, kicks like a mule and a very nice ECA stack.

MxT wrote:

admin wrote:

1 Fusion ECA ...

How u finding the fusion?

It's good, but HEAT seems stronger... Don't like the HEAT breath though, but will live with it...

However, the cycle I'm using above seems to affecting my prostate or bladder... I suspect it might have been triggered by the high doses of ephedrine and test, tren. Anyone else experience similar problems?

Ja its a sucky feeling- I havnt looked into the science of it att all- but i discoverd that when i ran Milk Thistle right through a cycle I didnt get that prostate issue that often. Might be it works ont the DHT conversion..... but Im guessing here. If ur not running it maybe try it for a few weeks and see what it does.

what does one tablet of heat contains?

However, the cycle I'm using above seems to affecting my prostate or bladder

I always wondered exactly what the symptoms are. I sometimes loose a bit of pressure when taking a slash. What other symptoms are there?

ok silly question. I have read the article in ME- but from what I have gathered the guy says 24 mcg is maksimum dose. From almost everything I have read 12mcg is the max??? What do yiou guys think that have actually run the stuff. O by the way Springbok Pharmacy in Alberton sells Venteze 4 at R52 for 100 tabs

I'm currently on 1.5g Test E, 450mg Tren E per week

How do you handle so much gear at a time? Those are some serious dosages!

I always wondered exactly what the symptoms are. I sometimes loose a bit of pressure when taking a slash. What other symptoms are there?

One feels "full" all the time, even after just having gone to the loo?

@MxT, maybe AR meant that 12mg is the max clinical dose, but for fat loss 24mg should be the max. He also mentioned in the original article on the net that he is very tolerant to stimulants.

Martin77 wrote:

I'm currently on 1.5g Test E, 450mg Tren E per week

How do you handle so much gear at a time? Those are some serious dosages!

It's not so bad, some guys here use twice as much...

After reading the insert and jackrabbits post im a bit nervous to take this stuff now,
what would be dosages high enough to cause "sudden death"?
Im taking 3 tabs a day split with 4hrs between each one. and might go to 1.5 tabs 3 times a day

It's not so bad, some guys here use twice as much...

Yeah! haven't seen the Bat around lately?!?!?!

jackrabbit1 wrote:

It's not so bad, some guys here use twice as much...

Yeah! haven't seen the Bat around lately?!?!?!

jack maybe he is also taking albuterol too and has happened to have that "sudden death" side effect....

Hi Novice

Been a bit busy lately!

I never felt drowsy while taking Albuterol. Took up to 4 x4mg tabs daily. Feel quite tired after all have worked out, which is kind of obvious since these kind of stimulants work on the adrenal cortex.
As far as the sudden death syntoms are concerned: I think it's all hype! Honestly, if that was the case it would not sell OTC as S2. I'm extremely sensitive to any stimulants and very conservitave when it comes to my health and wouldn't continue to use anything if I experience any bad sides.

Hopes this helps:)

Ya it does thanks, i've actually stopped taking them cause since i've started them i've been feeling lazy and weak during training, will go off for a while and see what happens,

Basically all that happens to be is i can feel my heart beat is different and my hands shake a bit and i get hot, i think i prefer Heat or Wasp to this tho.

Hows the fat burning, any results yet?

Fat burning is ok, but not what I hoped for. Can't tell if it's better than clen cause I could not handle latter. You must use what you feel comfortable with, after all, heat is a good fat burner if your stomach can handle all the caffeine:S

Good luck!

Fortuanetely, Admin is 'n Boertjie and farming with cows. Just imagine if he was an Aussie, farming with sheep - and all that Tren!! Ouch.!

Albuterol is the Yank's name for salmeterol. The dosage is highly individualised and should be tapered to your own personal side effect tolerance. It does work quicker (atleast initially) than Clen, but clen on longterm will lead to better fat loss. Salmeterol does have a better effect on muscle contractility than Clen(see ME article - nicely explained there), but Clen on longterm has more anabolic effect. Problem is that Clen does have more necrotic tissue effect on cardiac muscle and that's NOT good.
I've used the Salmeterol before - worked well. Tolerated 8-12 mg p day. Couldn't take more. Be careful when using it oin combination with T3. Always use smaller doses.

I shit you not, bro. My first cylcle was deca 300 & sustanon 250. I live on a farm 40 km's out of Bloem. About 11 weeks in my course I tripped, & donnered the wife's horse. Broke 2 fingers in my right hand. She was die moer in.

Article:

www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/albuterol.htm

I def into trying the clen at the end of my next cycle. please advise on which works better, the oral or inj. When exactly can you/should you start it, with ref to the AAS? (I'm going ont Mtx's cutting cycle)

Dosages? I believe you should ramp it up and down from about 20 to 80 umg and could stretch the run to six weeks if combined with Ketotefin (spelling???)which I presume is available over the counter?

Tnx for great info guys.

PS: I remember running Planipart with Deca for six weeks, years ago - 30 umg every second day Plani...cant remember the daca dose, no PCT....work OK - we were young dumb and full of...shit I suppose.