cutting combo?

Howzit guys,

Im thinking about doing a 6 week cutting coarse, just wanted to get your opinions on whch combo would be better, either Win + Anavar or Anavar + Tbol(if i can get) and then ill throw in Heat as well.

Thanks cheers

winstrol,test prop,anavar/t-bol. clean diet and thermogenic and cardio should do a good trick.

shot bro, so u reckon t-bol or var,
i haven't tried either so will probably go for some PGW var wen its ready. And would it be help alot having the test prop or can i leave it out cause i was trying to stay away from substances which heavily shut one down for a couple months.
But i was considering it tho as its always good to hav test as a base.

test must be a base champ. you are going to be running it between 4 and 6 weeks so shut down will happen but not as much as u think it would. if you are worried about shut down then run maintaince dosage of HCG during your cycle and then for 3 weeks post cycle with clomid... tbol is amazing stuff but so is anavar... so its up to you ...

Ok cool shot DJ ill run the test, im wanting more of a cutting cycle so will use anavar now and then use tbol if i do a coarse later in the year.
thanks for the advice,
cheers

anavar has got known lean mass and fat burning properties to it.... the more lean mass u pack on the more of a fat burner your body becomes its like a cars engine,the bigger the engine the more fuel it needs,so if u keep things moderate like carbs and fats then your body will used stored body fat for energy....adding in test will help keep your strength and probably give u more strength to have better work outs and use more energy and cause a drop in body fat aswell...

Hi !
sounds like a good plan. Always good to have test as a base… For short cycles rather prop ... oxa/ var is quite expensive, if u take a proper dose (around 50mg) might be better to go for 30mg ot. Tried the GA t-bolic 30mg / d ... was very nice.
Think test is the best choice, depending on dosage / diet and ester it can be a cutting, bulking or bridging roid ...
what kind of experience do you already have with roids ?

no I don't suffer from insomnia

I've only got 2 cycles under my belt, 1st was basic depo + dianabol, second was a little more complex, Dbol + Equi + Test E + win and test prop at the end.

DJ i read on another thread that you've taken T3 and i think clen as well..
do you think a low dose of either would be benificial for my cycle?

i have taken t3 with eca,not with clen i was going to take it with clen but ended up going for the eca version... it was very effective... ummm you can do by all means,if you are going to do t3 i think go for a cutting cycle that has something slightly more anabolic,something like say test prop,var and maybe tren acetate... that will keep your muscle whilst your body fat drops from the t3

ok cool thanks, what was your maximum t3 dose? and did you use heat or the nomad ECA's?
Sorry for all the questions but wanna do this right;)

HEAT is way superior, don't waste your money on the other one

Was thinking that but then didn't know if Heat would've been to "hectic"..

Try Fusion then, very very cool ECA stack

heat was fine for me,i did sweat a crap load though but this is cos of the t3 and the fact i used it in feb and i was using heat and doing cardio ontop of it....heat will give u decent results..

ok cool thanks guys, im still in a bit of a quandry tho, now that i might be throwing in some t3, i don't know if i should use tbol instead of win?

Howzit guys,
This is what i've come up with so far, feel free to criticize it as im still working it all out. And i know the t3 dose is low, gonna give it a trial run first.

Thanks cheers (File Removed)

Dam it won't open!
Well here it is basically -

PGW prop - 1ml mon,wed,fri,sun, etc. - 6weeks
CDG win - 0.5ml mon,wed,fri,sun, etc. - 6weeks
PGW Anavar - 40-60mg everyday - 7weeks
1 heat tab every day - 7weeks

t3 starting in second week and running for 35days.
Starting at 10mcg p/d and increasing by 10mcg every 5days then staying at 30mcg for 11days then tapering back down.

I will be taking 10g creatine, and 3000mg flaxseed oil everyday.

PCT - Clomid and thyroid repair from solal

ok well first of all your body produces about 20mcg of t3 a day( i read that in l.rea's building the perfect beast ebook) so only going up to 30mcg is only a little bit extra of a boost in the metabolism. why not run 1 t3 tab for a week and then then 2 t3 tabs untill u have 5 tabs left and then run down like that. it should help you doing it like that esp when u are running heat...60mcg is even still a low dosage. Just remember the the the most important thing of a cutting cycle is your Diet and cardio regime. you need to have your diet dialed in otherwise u are not going to be getting the best results from your cycle,the reason for using anabolics on a cutting cycle is to help you maintain your muscle mass whilst lowering body fat.. now there is only 2 ways of getting rid of body fat (which is actually stored energy) and that is consume less energy than your body needs forcing your body to use body fat for energy,or you can do more exercise to use those stored energy reserves... now can u imagine the results if you cut back the energy consumption a bit and also adding in more exercise...

ok thanks DJ will do that with my t3, pretty keen for this! will be doing 20 - 30min cardio every second day. And ill be sticking to the diet i got from you a while ago but with a few minor changes.

thanks again for the help bro
cheers

Howzit guys,
I read that taking creatine whilst on ECA is pointless becuse the creatine makes your muscles absorb more water and the caffiene trys to force water out.. Is this true?

I was planning on taking Heat with my anavar and then creatine as well for the anavar.. Should i just drop the Creatine?

Usually one can become very dehydrated when taking the two together. In the past I had experience with this and went in for a kidney check up. Its not advisable bud.

That being said although your kidneys are excreting more you are still taking water into the muscles simultaneously so although this strategy can be unhealthy, with ample H2O intake it is not "pointless".

does the same apply to using clen and creatine together?

Yep

Howzit guys,

Finally getting round to doing this cutting cycle so far this is what i've got planned to do:

Test Prop, Anavar, t3 and Clen/reverzine.

Now im in a bit of a quandry wether i should use Clen or reverzine, some sites say that reverzine is more potent with less sides and others say the exact opposite? If i run the clen i will be using ketotifen so cost will basically be the same.. Has any one used t3 and reverzine before?

My diet is on track - My maintenance calories are 2573cal per day and im currently taking just over 2250cal.

Week 1-6 Test prop 100mg EOD(front load first 2 shots)
Week 2-6 Anavar 70mg ED
Week 3-> 25days of t3 starting at 20mcg for one day then going up to 50/60mcg for 14days then tapering down over 10 days.
Clen/Reverzine??

What do you guys reckon?


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