New to forum I guess

Hello hello,
I posted a hello in general but usually the steroid forum is the one with the most traffic so I'll post here to

Howzit!
Been cycling for a few years now.
In my mid twenties
Never go over 100kg unless on a dirty bulk
6 foot
etc...

Planning to cut for two months as soon as I can get my hands on some thermo's, then going strait into a bulk.
My next bulk should be 13 weeks of about 500-600mg TestE EW and 300-400mg EQ EW, 50mg Dbol ED for first 4-6 weeks, and Test P 100mg EOD for two weeks after last shot, alongside 250i.u. HCG EOD. I'll follow that with ~6 weeks kessar.

In addition my girlfriend of three years has been watchin me get bigger and leaner and begging me to let her do a cycle. So eventually after she has proved her commitment in the gym I have agreed to let her do an oxandrolone cycle. However I am still hesitant as I have no clue what the quality of S.A. anavar is like. Of course since this gear is for a chick it needs to be ultra pure and correctly dosed to properly prevent virilizarion. I plan to start her at 5mg ED in split doses, and bump up accordingly, though I doubt I'll go over 15mg ED.

I hope I can contribute positively to this forum, and will try to stay an active member for a change...

Hi bro, will post a better reply later... I'm off to gym actually.

I have spoken to Doctari (Our forum dr) about cycles for woman and he explained to me in great detail. He recommends 10mg Anavar, 5mg Winstrol and Yombine... I guess she is not planning to compete yet, so kessar will not be needed. I recommend you wait for him to give more detailed input, because woman are very sensitive to hormonal changes.

Yeah bro, I second that advice. However I don't plan to give her two compounds on her first cycle. My first cycle was good old pharma grade depotrone at a measly 200mg/ml. The reason for this was I believe a first cycle should only contain one compound so that one can first evaluate how the gear affects them. Of course test is the best first cycle, and although 500mg is the usual recommendation I kept it conservative for a first cycle.

For my lady friend I chose oxandrolone because it is less androgenic than winnie and thus there is less risk of virilization. No doubt we will experiment with winnie and possibly nandro prop at low doses if she chooses to continue cycling with me. I agree that I total of 15mg-20mg ED is the norm for a female cycle, but I will start her at 5mg ED to get a feel as to how the compound affects her first.
As I mentioned my only concern is the purity and correct dosage of South African oxandrolone as this is vital to a "safe" female cycle. The only var I have come across in S.A. is Nomad's version.

With regards to the yohimbine, I myself have only used Ephedra and thus feel more comfortable giving that to her. However I do plan to experiment with clen and yohimbine this year, so she might possibly try these compounds this year to when I am more comfortable with them.

Yes, she is not quite in competition shape yet, so cutting out estrogen is not part of the programme yet...

Thanks for your help Admin,
I hope the Doc has something additionally useful to add.

Inja wrote:

As I mentioned my only concern is the purity and correct dosage of South African oxandrolone as this is vital to a "safe" female cycle. The only var I have come across in S.A. is Nomad's version.

Any input on the quality of S.A. var from guys who have used it is appreciated.

I would also be interested in knowing the correct dosage for a woman to use. My wife is also considering adding var to the heat she is currently using. She is very committed to her training and always has been.

Admin, is the pgw var that is supposed to be 20mg going to be exactly that or will it be between 20 and 30mgs? I would not want her to use more than she is supposed to.

hotshot wrote:

I would also be interested in knowing the correct dosage for a woman to use.

Well like I said, for var its generally 5mg-20mg ED. With winnie I would lower the dose. I have also heard of women using Test prop, or Nandro phenylprop at 20mg EOD or E3D (working half life is around 4days).

Still, I think its important to start at a low dose and cautiously increase dosage if none of the tell tale virilizing symptoms occur.

well first of all inja,email netro @ anabolicsteroids.co.za(remove the spaces) and he will point u in the right direction...

as for females on cycle,a very prominent personal trainer who has been in the game for a very long time and that has produced some of the top fitness and body builders a like (Andrew Hudson would be 1 of them) recommends for female competitors they should use 50mg of primobolin injectable a week (25mg of the tabs daily) 50mg of deca a week and 1 proviron tab for 12 week cycles is what he recommends. i have asked him about female competitors and anavar and he recommends 20mg max but only leading up to the show with a 1 t3 tab for a week moving up to 2 t3 tabs a week until the bottle is finished if you are holding alot of body fat.. this is what he recommends for female competitors and i have seen the results of his advice at the last fame competition held in Durban... a saw a girl who was looking terrible, and personally i feel she shouldn't have even bothered stepping on stage,she placed 8th in her line up, she competed in the next fame show and ended up 3rd in a line up of about 20 people. she had taken this guy's advice and wow the results where amazing...

Thanks Dj,
Although I've really been trying to drum in injecting into my gf, but I'm afraid she's a bit of a, well, pussy :laugh: .
I'm sure when she sees the results of her first cycle she will consider injecting, but I'm afraid her first cycle will have to be oral only for 6 or maybe 8 weeks if her liver agrees to come to the party.

bud she needs to learn that its not gonna be painful and the results will be worth it...just make her lay flat on the bed,slap her ass with a bit of force so the slap stings and then just jab her..she will not even realize that jab has been administered as she will probably be bitching u at u for the slap...

Yeah bro. Its easy to pin myself but its much scarier to think of pinning somebody else, since you can't feel what's going on for yourself.

djeasye wrote:

as for females on cycle,a very prominent personal trainer who has been in the game for a very long time and that has produced some of the top fitness and body builders a like (Andrew Hudson would be 1 of them) recommends for female competitors they should use 50mg of primobolin injectable a week (25mg of the tabs daily) 50mg of deca a week and 1 proviron tab for 12 week cycles is what he recommends.

Hey DJ Squirrel Man, been meaning to get back to this post to ask you a question. Do you think you could get back to your personal trainer and ask something for me. Deca is a good choice for women because of DHT and virilization. But women can already experience trouble with dosages of 20mg var or winnie. Thus I am concerned about the use of 100mg of steroid hormones in a women. Although these two steroids are not known for DHT problems, high concentrations of testosterone like hormones can also cause virilizing symptoms in women.
My question I have for your personal trainer is this: Given the use of these concentrations, why oh why does he prescribe proviron as well??? I understand that there is the ability to lower estrogen, but there are better way of going about this. Proviron is a potent DHT like molecule and should not be used in women at all really. Coupled with high concentrations of other steroids I think that this cycle sounds very risky for women. It like a recipe on how to turn your clit into a throbbing hard tower of manhood...

Thanks bro, I'd like to know what he has to say. I'm sure he has experience with this cycle. What would be even more awesome is if he could get some of the chicks who have used this cycle to post here, or to drop me a mail, so we can chat about their experiences.

i hear u bro,and the reason for this from what he told my lady friend is that he wants her female hormones to shut down obviously so that that other muti can do the job. many people have said that the information he has given is reckless in terms of hormone alteration and body changing but hey if they willing to go through the change then its up to them...

Aight bro,

I think for the purpose of quality free information in case some inexperienced young lady stumbles on this thread, I'm glad we can agree that this cycle is rather intense and dangerous for a women. It should not be done as a first cycle most definately. And ladies should be very cautious with something like proviron (I would say stay away from it). Posts on other forums testify to the fact that as little as 10mg or 15mg a day of oxandrolone can cause a women to loose her period for up to six months post cycle. In my opinion a women can regard that as shut down :blink: .

Thanks for the useful feedback bro. Female cycles are becoming a new interest of mine. Maybe after my lady does one or two this year we can start up a thread on the topic with real world experiences.

P.S. It would still be good to hear feedback on this cycle you mentioned. Did your lady friend do it and would she be willing to discuss it?

It's interesting to hear that about the loss of her period for up to 6 months.

How would the use of anavar effect a woman's ability to have kids?

The loss of period is something that is person specific. I have read posts where women have lost their period mid-cycle and this continued for six months after the cycle. I have also read posts where women have just had a reduction in flow, and a few irregular periods with a quick return to normal post cycle.
Generally women become horny monsters on cycle so that’s the positive trade off :woohoo: :silly: :laugh:

As far as fertility goes, you must remember that even when you juice there is a risk your balls will not recover fully and you will never have kids again. This risk is important with women too. Womens hormones are complex things bro. It’s a risk anybody takes before they decide to cycle, male or female.

However since in all the stories I've read the women recovered her period fully, I think it might be safe to say that the risk is very low. In the end the decision is hers and she should be as educated as possible.

I should also emphasize the need for blood work!

Blood work blood work blood work


And of course I'll re-emphasize how horny women seem to get on cycle :woohoo: :silly: :lol: :kiss: :woohoo: