Superdrol with Winstrol

STUARTF wrote: I know there is the 'ideal' first cycle stack of d-bol/cyp/winny and this is what is best to recommend for a beginner starting out with steroids. However not everyone wants the muscle mass/size attributed with a cycle like this and sometimes a short winstrol cycle can satisfy a beginners needs all depending on what his/her goals are. I know a lot of my mates just want the muscle hardening/energy increase associated with winstrol and are quite happy to stick with this. Obviously I stress that this is goal dependant and in most cases a steroid user decides to do a cycle to increase muscle mass which is of coarse what they are designed for.

If you decide to exclude test then I would say that a superdrol frontload 20mg/day for 4 weeks, winstrol at 50mg/day for 6 weeks and cycle it together with clen. DJ is right with the liver toxicity so perhaps run winstrol injectable instead of the oral winstrol.

Clen will be cycled two weeks on, 2 weeks off
week 1 - ramp up from 40mcg to 100mcg
week 2 - 100mcg
week 3 - 4 - off
week 5 - 6 - ramp from 80mcg to 100mcg

Think about getting betasleep or ketotifen to up-regulate beta-receptors as clen will cause these recpetors to down regulate. If you run this then you can run the clen 4 weeks on with maybe a week off.

Super! Thank you very much for your input! I do not want to put on bulk, really just lean cut little more mass. So seems this stack is great for that purpose. I already have the Clen and have some Adco-Zetofen as well. I am going to get some injectable Winstrol. That means I am set!!! :evil:

DJ wrote: to be 100% honest i wouldnt run superdrol with any other oral, this is gonna be a bad idea for your liver and kidneys,i have used 20mg of superdrol before and fuck me it worked me hard...use one or the other. not both together,just my opinion.

Guys, Superdrol is powerful stuff and very under rated. Not many guys have used it as far as I can gather and those who have all agree. Its often confused with super anadrol and ppl tend to think its the same. IMO it kicks dbol's ass.

DJ just used 20mg and he felt it. I've only used it once and @ 40mg a day. Hit my system and kidneys so bad I had to stop taking them after two weeks. Have never seen my urine that colour before and it scared the shit outa me! It is on the forum here sumwhere.

So, u have been warned.

P.s. Don't get me wrong, the stuff is excellent. Just not something to fuck around with.

MCJ wrote:

DJ wrote: to be 100% honest i wouldnt run superdrol with any other oral, this is gonna be a bad idea for your liver and kidneys,i have used 20mg of superdrol before and fuck me it worked me hard...use one or the other. not both together,just my opinion.

Guys, Superdrol is powerful stuff and very under rated. Not many guys have used it as far as I can gather and those who have all agree. Its often confused with super anadrol and ppl tend to think its the same. IMO it kicks dbol's ass.

DJ just used 20mg and he felt it. I've only used it once and @ 40mg a day. Hit my system and kidneys so bad I had to stop taking them after two weeks. Have never seen my urine that colour before and it scared the shit outa me! It is on the forum here sumwhere.

So, u have been warned.

P.s. Don't get me wrong, the stuff is excellent. Just not something to fuck around with.

Out of curiosity, what would you rank more potent? 50mg naps or 40mg sdrol ed? Sounds like something I should be using :silly:

MCJ wrote:

DJ wrote: to be 100% honest i wouldnt run superdrol with any other oral, this is gonna be a bad idea for your liver and kidneys,i have used 20mg of superdrol before and fuck me it worked me hard...use one or the other. not both together,just my opinion.

Guys, Superdrol is powerful stuff and very under rated. Not many guys have used it as far as I can gather and those who have all agree. Its often confused with super anadrol and ppl tend to think its the same. IMO it kicks dbol's ass.

DJ just used 20mg and he felt it. I've only used it once and @ 40mg a day. Hit my system and kidneys so bad I had to stop taking them after two weeks. Have never seen my urine that colour before and it scared the shit outa me! It is on the forum here sumwhere.

So, u have been warned.

P.s. Don't get me wrong, the stuff is excellent. Just not something to fuck around with.

I am definitely going to start off with a low dose, probably 10mg p/d and see how I do, before I increase my dose. I will also keep a close eye on my urine and skin colour. Definitely going to run a good liver protection (Livotib) I believe is good and plenty of water and good diet.

jakes wrote:

MCJ wrote:

DJ wrote: to be 100% honest i wouldnt run superdrol with any other oral, this is gonna be a bad idea for your liver and kidneys,i have used 20mg of superdrol before and fuck me it worked me hard...use one or the other. not both together,just my opinion.

Guys, Superdrol is powerful stuff and very under rated. Not many guys have used it as far as I can gather and those who have all agree. Its often confused with super anadrol and ppl tend to think its the same. IMO it kicks dbol's ass.

DJ just used 20mg and he felt it. I've only used it once and @ 40mg a day. Hit my system and kidneys so bad I had to stop taking them after two weeks. Have never seen my urine that colour before and it scared the shit outa me! It is on the forum here sumwhere.

So, u have been warned.

P.s. Don't get me wrong, the stuff is excellent. Just not something to fuck around with.

Out of curiosity, what would you rank more potent? 50mg naps or 40mg sdrol ed? Sounds like something I should be using :silly:

Can't really make that comparison as the two work very differently. On toxicity I would rate them almost the same.

But can't compare superdrol to anaps strength gain. Anaps risk of various side effects is prominent.
Superdrol has minimal water retension unlike anadrol.

That's just my personal opinion

Roidrat07 wrote:

MCJ wrote:

DJ wrote: to be 100% honest i wouldnt run superdrol with any other oral, this is gonna be a bad idea for your liver and kidneys,i have used 20mg of superdrol before and fuck me it worked me hard...use one or the other. not both together,just my opinion.

Guys, Superdrol is powerful stuff and very under rated. Not many guys have used it as far as I can gather and those who have all agree. Its often confused with super anadrol and ppl tend to think its the same. IMO it kicks dbol's ass.

DJ just used 20mg and he felt it. I've only used it once and @ 40mg a day. Hit my system and kidneys so bad I had to stop taking them after two weeks. Have never seen my urine that colour before and it scared the shit outa me! It is on the forum here sumwhere.

So, u have been warned.

P.s. Don't get me wrong, the stuff is excellent. Just not something to fuck around with.

I am definitely going to start off with a low dose, probably 10mg p/d and see how I do, before I increase my dose. I will also keep a close eye on my urine and skin colour. Definitely going to run a good liver protection (Livotib) I believe is good and plenty of water and good diet.

As with any cycle a good liver support and fluid intake is essential. However with superdol, as with substances like tren, I'd advice u to get a good dosage of cranberry extract daily as its the kidneys that take the most strain.

Personally I feel 10mg is too little. 20mg will be just fine if u take all the precautions.

As for using Sdrol with winny, high dosages of tren etc is a no.

MCJ wrote: Personally I feel 10mg is too little. 20mg will be just fine if u take all the precautions.

As for using Sdrol with winny, high dosages of tren etc is a no.

I have started with 10mg empty stomach this morning. So far no hassles, no discolouration in urine. I am going to take another 10mg just before training tonight. I'll see how it goes.

Roidrat07 wrote:

MCJ wrote: Personally I feel 10mg is too little. 20mg will be just fine if u take all the precautions.

As for using Sdrol with winny, high dosages of tren etc is a no.

I have started with 10mg empty stomach this morning. So far no hassles, no discolouration in urine. I am going to take another 10mg just before training tonight. I'll see how it goes.

LOL!
It will take a few days mate. That's if u even notice anything at all.

THANK YOU ALL for you wonderful help and assistance. I will follow the advice given here. I will report back with my results so others can benefit from my experience as well.

Update on the superdrol?

Its been 2 or 3 days. Fokkol would have happened. Give it a week or so. Steroids aren't magic haha

jakes wrote: Its been 2 or 3 days. Fokkol would have happened. Give it a week or so. Steroids aren't magic haha

At least not that magical

jakes wrote: Its been 2 or 3 days. Fokkol would have happened. Give it a week or so. Steroids aren't magic haha

Jakes, have you ever used superdrol?

Personally for thickness and mass would you use sdrol or dbol? Im looking at getting your kind of mass.

Adder wrote:

jakes wrote: Its been 2 or 3 days. Fokkol would have happened. Give it a week or so. Steroids aren't magic haha

Jakes, have you ever used superdrol?

Personally for thickness and mass would you use sdrol or dbol? Im looking at getting your kind of mass.

Dbol for mass. Can use a higher dosage with less harsher sides.