Steroids and Schoolboy Sport

Hey guys,

I'm a teacher at a private boys school in Natal, and I was just wondering if there are any other teachers, parents or anyone else really, that has noticed an increase in schoolboy steroid usage?

I know of at least five other top schools in Natal where steroid use is happening amongst schoolboys.

Any feedback would be great

Well, "we" played Jeppe Boys every year, and James Dalton seemed bigger at school than he did when he played for the Boks.
He also had a bit of a hair loss problem from STD 8. maybe he was using.

I think its more common than you think

i think part of the james dalton story is that he was 32 years old at the time....

what! 32 in STD 8?

haha i hear you lol...

my biggest worry is that the kids are getting gear too early and they arent really educated about it at all...and they shoudlnt be taking gear at their age...they got no PCT, prob taking fake gear...at the school i am at now, guys were big into their d-bol tabs (pinkies) last year

ja, I hear you. If you think they are using, the best you can do is "educate" them. encourage them to get online and learn.
Point out some useful web sites.

Obviously you can't teach them directly, but google is an awesome tool!

yup, roid abuse is rife in schools these days, everybody wants to be bigger, stronger and faster... I agree with Getaphix, rather talk to them and encourage them to do a bit of research before jumping into the testosterone world.

yeah i agreee with both of you guys. we have had guest speakers a the school to talk to them about drugs in sport etc. one of them was on the IOC doping committee! the shit thing is, is that we cannot do any testing to find out who is taking. myself and the sports scientist here put through a proposal with documentation etc etc and management basically laughed it off!

Hi Guys

Yeah definately hey im from a small town where we have one college here and rugby is very big!!!
One that you can def notice is that et least 10 or 11 of those boys are on the juice.. and it is really sad when you ask them they are not even shy about it and when you terms like clomid you get the response do i look like a chick and real men don't need things like that

:blink: very worrying.....

You know the days I came from only some guys were using gear.. and it was mostly body builders... You would rarely find a school boy using it unless his a serious rugby player with a big future in mind... I was always too scared to use the stuff.. not that was ever ready.. only have about just over a years training body building experience..

What I do know is.. almost all students are doing some form of drugs especially referring to university.. it was never like this before...

Now recently it struck me, everyone I train with, or meet or talk to is on some sort of GEAR. WTF??? Like I have seen first year students 18 year olds planning using dbols to build up size now... I also noticed almost all students look good, pumped up what ever. Walking around hatfield, its hard not to notice that your small if you don't weight more than 85kilos... Everyone is getting bigger, more lean... I can spot guys who use the stuff in the gym, and almost everyone is on something who is in their 20s...

So it seems like GEAR is now in demand and everyone wants in on it, or is on it.. A few years ago you rarily see someone with lean muscle at the coast on the beach, now days everyone is looking good...

What is all of this leaning towards????!?!?

Its not going to stop, as long as there is demand, you have people making money off it..

Gear, Juice what ever is not a serious body building drug, its now a cosmetic drug too for anyone that is prepared to pay for it...

I say this is all a wonderful thing, let the retards #@#$!@ up their life.. its better for the minority of us...

I agree with vision in the sense that it has become cosmetic. Most (80%) of the guys that I know that is on juice dont do sport and dont do compititions, they do it just for looks.

I'm no expert but the most worrying general request I get from friends and guys in the gym is not "Do you have this?" It is " What do you have?" And they use ANYTHING they can lay their hands on, even if its in a plastic bag!!

I secondly know exactly ONE sportman who is not on juice and yes, the guys that I know that sells claims the school market is their biggest....

The first time I saw gear was when I was 16 years old. Two friends who were big into rugby got their hands on some Depotrone amps. I was asked to do the injections, since I was always first in line when something illegal or dangerous was around. I refused however...

I was also asked to give them some details regarding the usage, so I did some reading and told them to take one amp (250mg) every week until finished. I obviously didn't know anything about PCT at the time and didn't care, because I wasn't the one taking the shots.

I saw one of them the other day and was shocked at how short he still is... I guess the estrogenic effects must have closed his growth plates prematurely...

I think we should also look at the other side of this the type of pressure these kids are under as well i'm definately not making excuses or condoning the use of gear for these kids..

One of my friends is now 17 and busy with 1st team training and let me tell you it also boils down to the coach i mean he has these kids practising every day and gyming at night and he really pushes them to there limits and sometimes i feel maybe even a bit to hard, and instead of being the LOSER that gave up rather looking at gear to help them keep up!

Thats were i feel that a coach should also know what he's doing!

Damn,,

This is something that gets to me, School Kids should NOT be on juice. Their bodies are still growing. Still developing. Juice will F8ck them up. When I was in school one of the guys I knew was on juice,, he had an awesome build but he never grew taller..

If I had to catch someone selling juice to kids I would crack their heads open. When you are an adult,, you can use the shit without causing serious permanent damage,, when you're a kid it's a different story.

Guys selling to these kids should be STAMPED out,, it puts everyone who uses juice in a bad light.

Batman I agree with you Would help you, but the truth is the school kids are also at fault.. and its bull shit that they should be educated, they know there are risks... if they choose to take chances with there future then I don't care... And any kid older than 16 is able to make a decision on wether he his willing to take those risks.. They smart enough to use google... There is no place in this world for stupid people.

Batman,agreed 100% with u there bud,

at the end of the day there is a lot of pressure put on kids from teachers and selectors etc that kids just turn to the quickest option possible instead of researching dieting and training methods,granted u have only got so many years in which to peak in school boy rugby,unless u are one of those gifted kids where matric is the best 5 years of your life,so juice seems like the only option which causes major problems on guys that are still growing naturally....the scary thing is kids are getting muti from the schools,not from their mates but from the coaches.... i've got mates that have told me that during their std 9 and matric year there where going with their money weekly to their coach for their shots of depotrone.... now this is a school that is highly rated in school boy rugby....and their coach is the one giving them their jabs.... its balls and i hope that parents find out about this and have people like him irradiated from the school...

Did matric in '85. Didn't even know about steroids. How things have changed.

Its sad and it is dangerous.... This the whole reason why "juicers' have a bad name. Kids will be kids but that is no excuse for potentially stuffing up your future. Any of you guys out there that reads this thread that is still in school- stay away from gear. You are gambling with your health. The girls might think you look good now, but when youre 5 foot 2 and balding at Univercity- trust me bud- you wont be big enough to make the rugby team and you will for sure as hell not be the centre of any social circle that involves any half decent looking lady. Think aboput that- short term gain- so you can play first team in matric and long term drama that you will hate yourself for

Im with the whole skull bashing idea, got a guy at my local gym that sells anadrol to highschool kids, would love 2 meet him alone in a alley

The only way to combat or control this problem is by high school bodies taking this problem very seriously and implementing proper testing policies. They are the ones that should be held accountable for athletes using drugs for athletic enhancement.

ya it definately seems to be a problem, and i think its the coaches pushing it.. like i saw my nephew a few weekends ago who's in high school, and he was telling me how 1st team rugby have been training since last year, and they have early morning training, then have to do a summer sport, and then have to gym at night.. its ridiculous.. what happened to school being about getting an education? seems like all thats important these days is having a 6 pack, playing 1st team rugby and being the strongest and biggest bloke around..

Brandon wrote:

yeah i agreee with both of you guys. we have had guest speakers a the school to talk to them about drugs in sport etc. one of them was on the IOC doping committee! the shit thing is, is that we cannot do any testing to find out who is taking. myself and the sports scientist here put through a proposal with documentation etc etc and management basically laughed it off!

I wonder if they would still laugh it off after one or two pupils get caught or the schools name gets dragged into a major press saga. Take your proposal to the parents governing body I am sure they will take you more seriously.

you can't blame the kids for wanting to do it,,, hell I probably would have tried it if it was offered to me when I was a teenager,,,, as a teenager you're willing to try just about anything

I believe adults should be able to do whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else... but kids need to be protected.... you can't blame the kids,,, you gotta blame the people pushing the shit to them...

the real problem is the media ... they disseminate so much bad information about steroids that it overshadows the REAL dangers about UNDER-AGE steroid use.

they spend so much time spreading stories about the so called negative effects of steroids , they play on the hype about roid rage in order to sell stories when there are VERY real dangers for under age steroid users. Any person who is experimenting with anabolic and androgenic steroids and doesn't understand the impact it can have on the endocrine system in an adolescent male really needs to open their eyes and do some reading on the subject.

UPDATE!!!

Ok so I've just finished chatting to a boy here, who gave me some information about whats going down here.

There is a schoolboy dealing to other schoolboys here
The guys are taking blue dianabol tablets
The guys are paying ...... wait for it ....... R400 for 17 pills!!!
The guys are taking 1 D-bol tab a day (LOL)!

I cannot believe this shit is happening!

We played against a top Durban government school last weekend (in rugby) and the size of some (ok, most) of the boys was frightening! And the way that some of the guys had grown from last year was too extreme for it to be natural...These kids are 15 and years old for fucks sake!