Add to cycle or carry on as is?

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03 Mar 2009 00:07 #10152 by Muscles101
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Hey all.

From week 1-4 I had been taking 20mg dbol a day and 250mg Sust a week then from week 5-11 ill drop the D-bol and doubled the Sust dose to 500mg a week. (yes I know I should have started off at 500mg anyway.)

I was wondering if I can or should add anything to week 5-11's 500mg sust? I have picked up some fat that I dont like, should I take something to help with that? Winny? ECA stack? Or will that hinder results?

Im on week 6 now by the way.

Thanks alot!
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03 Mar 2009 00:08 #10153 by Muscles101
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Oh and Ive picked up 8kg's in 6 weeks which im pretty happy about :-) :-) hehe.

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03 Mar 2009 07:50 #10155 by MxT
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You could run some winny- Sus take +/- 3 weeks to clear so you are sitting in a situation where you will have 20 odd days after last shot before starting PCT might be a good idea to run winny tabs for a week before and then the last 3 weeks before PCT starts. Will keep you blood levels decent and harden you up. Another option is Proviron. But i would go with Winny. Just my 2 cents;)

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03 Mar 2009 12:08 #10191 by WOT
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Dammod wrote:

Hey all.

From week 1-4 I had been taking 20mg dbol a day and 250mg Sust a week then from week 5-11 ill drop the D-bol and doubled the Sust dose to 500mg a week. (yes I know I should have started off at 500mg anyway.)

I was wondering if I can or should add anything to week 5-11's 500mg sust? I have picked up some fat that I dont like, should I take something to help with that? Winny? ECA stack? Or will that hinder results?

Im on week 6 now by the way.

Thanks alot!
D



What is your bodyfat % sitting at ?

although alot of the old school cycles look good on the service , if you're body fat is at all high Dbol and Sust is a nightmare to really work with and keep your gains , the bloating makes it very hard to correctly gauge your calories ...

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03 Mar 2009 19:15 #10214 by Muscles101
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Im sitting at 19-20 at the moment :-(
Would a ECA stack hinder gains?

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03 Mar 2009 20:38 #10217 by jackrabbit1
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At the end of cycle run TestProp EOD with Winny for another month.
Up Cardio, eat cleanly and add ECA from now on. You'll drop a couple % points.
Look at some of Dj's eatig plans.

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03 Mar 2009 22:43 #10222 by Muscles101
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

At the end of cycle run TestProp EOD with Winny for another month.
Up Cardio, eat cleanly and add ECA from now on. You'll drop a couple % points.
Look at some of Dj's eatig plans.

I like the sound of this...How much winny should I take?

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04 Mar 2009 09:57 #10241 by WOT
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

At the end of cycle run TestProp EOD with Winny for another month.
Up Cardio, eat cleanly and add ECA from now on. You'll drop a couple % points.
Look at some of Dj's eatig plans.



as long as you're running a low dose of test ... be careful with this type of cycling as your receptors are going to be pretty well plugged and this type of cycling will HAMMER your immune system and you'll more than likely get sick sooner or later ... which is a prime way to lose a chunk of your gains.

take it easy and make sure you're vits are at super high dosages and get some hawthorn berry ...


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04 Mar 2009 10:33 #10248 by Muscles101
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Ok cool cool I undrstand...would WASP hinder my gains if I started taking that now?

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04 Mar 2009 11:52 #10252 by jackrabbit1
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as long as you're running a low dose of test ... be careful with this type of cycling as your receptors are going to be pretty well plugged and this type of cycling will HAMMER your immune system and you'll more than likely get sick sooner or later ... which is a prime way to lose a chunk of your gains.


Hows that? Youre basically running out onto a short ester an effectively just making your cycle a little longer by adding a short cutting cycle to the back. Taking the time for the Sust to leave your body into consideration youre hardly adding anything at all(1 week is it?) and you'll be able to start your PCT 2 days after last prop shot.

If you meant clogging/downgrading Beta receptors because of the ECA, then yes, you need to cycle that and another 8 weeks on Ephadrine without a break cant be good.

I use ECA for a workout booster. 1 Heat, 1 hour before workout 5 days a week, except Fri when i do 2 - long week for old ballie:lol:.

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04 Mar 2009 12:48 #10256 by WOT
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

as long as you're running a low dose of test ... be careful with this type of cycling as your receptors are going to be pretty well plugged and this type of cycling will HAMMER your immune system and you'll more than likely get sick sooner or later ... which is a prime way to lose a chunk of your gains.


Hows that? Youre basically running out onto a short ester an effectively just making your cycle a little longer by adding a short cutting cycle to the back. Taking the time for the Sust to leave your body into consideration youre hardly adding anything at all(1 week is it?) and you'll be able to start your PCT 2 days after last prop shot.

If you meant clogging/downgrading Beta receptors because of the ECA, then yes, you need to cycle that and another 8 weeks on Ephadrine without a break cant be good.

I use ECA for a workout booster. 1 Heat, 1 hour before workout 5 days a week, except Fri when i do 2 - long week for old ballie:lol:.





steroids in general hammer your immune system ... without getting into all the "bro-science" debates about receptor degradation , all i'll say is its your body do what you want ... but if you've run long term cycles and you're adding in more compounds at the end including 17aa steroids , you'll know why its not the best approach to cycling IMO ..

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