Your most succesful cycle

Hi all

This is mostly aimed at the senior guys who have done a few cycles.

What cycle did your body really great?

It doesnt have to be strictly bulk or cut, but what is the best cycle you have ran and why?

Shot guys, mine is 8 weeks dbol :S :whistle:

gorilla wrote: Hi all

This is mostly aimed at the senior guys who have done a few cycles.

What cycle did your body really great?

It doesnt have to be strictly bulk or cut, but what is the best cycle you have ran and why?

Shot guys, mine is 8 weeks dbol :S :whistle:

8 weeks of straight dbol? Doesn't sound like a good cycle

Mine to date was
tren ace 700mg/week weeks 1-7
test prop 600mg/week weeks 1-7
oral winny 50mg/day weeks 3-7
PGCL 90mcg/day weeks 2-7

best lean gain cycle ever run. Joints took a bit of hammering towards the end-love winny but shit it kills my joints.

yea the tren at 700mg a week will be a killer.

DJ wrote: yea the tren at 700mg a week will be a killer.

love tren-hands down the best anabolic. Dose may have been a bit high-got a prolactin gyno lump, but bromocriptine took care of it.
Only draw back with tren is its very suppressive and I find recovery is tough, even with hcg takes a bit to bounce back.

For next tren run, going to get creative with pct using dbol bridge and peptides with gh

Agree its world class...700mg is too high for my liking personally,360mg a week is the most I will go for the acetate...

Is it safe to do so much tren a week? Looks nice tho! What was ur injection protocol? Ed or eod ?

Halfhuman08 wrote: Is it safe to do so much tren a week? Looks nice tho! What was ur injection protocol? Ed or eod ?

ED-keeps the blood levels much more stable.

I handle tren quite well, apart from the prolactin gyno lump and a bit of insomnia and the usual cardio effect didn't have much in the way of sides

But 700mg is high-I won't go that high again, the results aren't much different than 500mg per week and you're just putting your body under unnecessary stress. I won't go over 500mg/week again.

mine would be.........

10wk suss350 at 350mg a wk + 10wk dbol at 20mg ED.

Plain and simple basic beginner cycle with good gains of 12kgs of mass for the 10 wks

Yohimbe wrote:

gorilla wrote: Hi all

This is mostly aimed at the senior guys who have done a few cycles.

What cycle did your body really great?

It doesnt have to be strictly bulk or cut, but what is the best cycle you have ran and why?

Shot guys, mine is 8 weeks dbol :S :whistle:

8 weeks of straight dbol? Doesn't sound like a good cycle

Mine to date was
tren ace 700mg/week weeks 1-7
test prop 600mg/week weeks 1-7
oral winny 50mg/day weeks 3-7
PGCL 90mcg/day weeks 2-7

best lean gain cycle ever run. Joints took a bit of hammering towards the end-love winny but shit it kills my joints.

Have never done a real cycle bud, will be starting soon. How are the sides on 700mg tren?

gorilla wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

gorilla wrote: Hi all

This is mostly aimed at the senior guys who have done a few cycles.

What cycle did your body really great?

It doesnt have to be strictly bulk or cut, but what is the best cycle you have ran and why?

Shot guys, mine is 8 weeks dbol :S :whistle:

8 weeks of straight dbol? Doesn't sound like a good cycle

Mine to date was
tren ace 700mg/week weeks 1-7
test prop 600mg/week weeks 1-7
oral winny 50mg/day weeks 3-7
PGCL 90mcg/day weeks 2-7

best lean gain cycle ever run. Joints took a bit of hammering towards the end-love winny but shit it kills my joints.

Have never done a real cycle bud, will be starting soon. How are the sides on 700mg tren?

I wouldn't do tren for a first cycle-I used tren on a 5th or 6th cycle for the first time.

The sides i had were a bit of insomnia, i got a prolactin lump in right nipple and the usual expected cardio effects-get out of breath very easily and quickly. I also found i got quite emotional-not aggressive per se but more couldn't control emotions-the bromo i used for the prolactin gyno made this worse
But everyone is different and some people have quite bad sides on tren from an aggression point of view, even hallucinations.

I wouldn't suggest tren for a first cycle or even a second cycle and if you did run it, I would run acetate at no more than 300mg per week until you have seen how you react to it

For a first cycle, i would run test enth at 500mg per week 10 weeks, front load with 30-50mg dbol per day for first 4 weeks and run aromasin or adex as anti e.-this would be more of a bulking type first cycle to add some mass.

The cycle would depend on your stats and bodyfat levels-if your bodyfat levels are higher, i would try drop them a bit first and then rather run lower dose of test-300-400mg week of prop and run it with either masteron prop 400mg per week
for 7 weeks or 7 weeks test prop 500 mg/week with the last 4 weeks of oral winny at 30-50mg per day

Im FING scared of tren I will be doing 500mg cyp for 12-15 weeks still thinking about it with 30-50mg dbol for my first. Already have the gear does that sound?

I will only do tren at cycle 6-8 I know that stuff isnt something you play with

Thanks bud

Which brand did u use for the tren ace and test prop? My best to date was 900mg equipoise p/w and 750mg sust p/w with proviron throughout cycle at 40mg p/d ran for 18 weeks I think can't remember exactly.personally like eq alot!

gorilla wrote: Im FING scared of tren I will be doing 500mg cyp for 12-15 weeks still thinking about it with 30-50mg dbol for my first. Already have the gear does that sound?

I will only do tren at cycle 6-8 I know that stuff isnt something you play with

Thanks bud

Sounds good-stick to 12 weeks. Don't forget the anti e and I would throw in some hcg during the cycle so you're not so shut down-I like to run hcg at 500-750iu/week every third week of the cycle for a week ie week 3, week 6.
PCT start two weeks after your last injection
my pct is usually
Cycle finishes week 12
week 13 vita c vit e and fish oil
week 13 vita c vit e and fish oil, hcg 500iu
week 14 nolva 40mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
week 15 nolva 40mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
Week 16 nolva 20mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
week 17 nolva 20mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil

Halfhuman08 wrote: Which brand did u use for the tren ace and test prop? My best to date was 900mg equipoise p/w and 750mg sust p/w with proviron throughout cycle at 40mg p/d ran for 18 weeks I think can't remember exactly.personally like eq alot!

it was chinese generic-not from local supplier

Also like eq-nice small gains and great vascularity-and wasn't very lean at the time

Yohimbe wrote:

gorilla wrote: Im FING scared of tren I will be doing 500mg cyp for 12-15 weeks still thinking about it with 30-50mg dbol for my first. Already have the gear does that sound?

I will only do tren at cycle 6-8 I know that stuff isnt something you play with

Thanks bud

Sounds good-stick to 12 weeks. Don't forget the anti e and I would throw in some hcg during the cycle so you're not so shut down-I like to run hcg at 500-750iu/week every third week of the cycle for a week ie week 3, week 6.
PCT start two weeks after your last injection
my pct is usually
Cycle finishes week 12
week 13 vita c vit e and fish oil
week 13 vita c vit e and fish oil, hcg 500iu
week 14 nolva 40mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
week 15 nolva 40mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
Week 16 nolva 20mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
week 17 nolva 20mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil

Why not 15 weeks bud? How does a bridge with dbol/winny+proviron sound?

I was thinking:
week 12 cycle ends
week 13-18: winny 50mg daily or dbol 40mg daily + 25mg Proviron
Then week 19: Clomid 100mg daily
Week 19 on: Nolva for 30 days 20mg daily with hcg EOD (1 vile hcg)

Please comment on the bridge and pct choice?

My best cycle was equi,test prop,super test and tren... Vega5 met me whilst I was onb that cycle,was awesome gains,but hard on the body.

Dj whats your stats at the moment bud? I can just think with all your dieting knowledge an contest prep experience you should look pretty decent?

On another note, how much did you gain on that cycle like what was your before stats and after stats?

Right now I am not in the best shape bud, 14-15% body fat,I have been off everything for over 7months now trying to get my wife pregnant, so training has been up and down, also I haven't been able to do cardio for the last 12 weeks due to an injury to my foot, but I have still been training, I wear a size 34 pants so I am not too over the top,I am generally a 31 or 32inch waist...

Cycle I started at 100 at about 16% body fat,and when I met vega I was 107kgs at 9% all on my stomach and lower back as its my genetic make up. Striated triceps and quads.

Basically the guy was biltong!

Wow sounds awesome bud! How did you get those love handles,lower back and abs ripped??

I didn't unfortunantly,they did get a lot smaller,

Have you ever tried riverject?

Plenty bro...I have got some $ saved up that when I am at a low enough body fat I am gonna have a tummy tuck to get rid of the extra skin and lipo, I am not afraid of putting in the work but I always get to a sticking point where nothing helps

gorilla wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

gorilla wrote: Im FING scared of tren I will be doing 500mg cyp for 12-15 weeks still thinking about it with 30-50mg dbol for my first. Already have the gear does that sound?

I will only do tren at cycle 6-8 I know that stuff isnt something you play with

Thanks bud

Sounds good-stick to 12 weeks. Don't forget the anti e and I would throw in some hcg during the cycle so you're not so shut down-I like to run hcg at 500-750iu/week every third week of the cycle for a week ie week 3, week 6.
PCT start two weeks after your last injection
my pct is usually
Cycle finishes week 12
week 13 vita c vit e and fish oil
week 13 vita c vit e and fish oil, hcg 500iu
week 14 nolva 40mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
week 15 nolva 40mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
Week 16 nolva 20mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil
week 17 nolva 20mg/day vita c vit e and fish oil

Why not 15 weeks bud? How does a bridge with dbol/winny+proviron sound?

I was thinking:
week 12 cycle ends
week 13-18: winny 50mg daily or dbol 40mg daily + 25mg Proviron
Then week 19: Clomid 100mg daily
Week 19 on: Nolva for 30 days 20mg daily with hcg EOD (1 vile hcg)

Please comment on the bridge and pct choice?

I'd just rather not be shut down for that long. With that bridge you're going to be shut down for 18 weeks, which is a long time and recovery might be a bit of a struggle.

I'm also not so big on hcg during full pct. Hcg mimics LH which is the signal for your testes to produce test, but while you're on it, it suppresses the pituitary gland from producing LH. There is also a recovery needed for the pituitary to start producing LH again on an extended cycle of HCG.
My logic is to pulse the HCG during the cycle and use it the first week of pct to get the benefit of the LH without suppressing the pituitary.

To use a bridge, is more bridging between cycles, but the idea of dbol bridge between cycles or for pct is to allow some recovery by boosting the test levels and reducing the cortisol levels during that delicate period of pct when you are likely to lose most of your gains.
The way it works is you use 10mg of dbol first thing in the morning as you wake up. At this low dose and cos of the short half life of dbol, it piggy backs your natural high testosterone level boost in the morning (the morning glory) without effecting your natural LH much. This allows you to recover by about 80% while raising your natural test levels by about 5x and reducing cortisol levels by 50-70%
There is no scientific evidence backing this up and is more an underground theory. I've used it in the past and felt it did work, but always ran an extended pct after I came off the dbol bridge.

On a first cycle, I wouldn't get so complicated and just run straight test cyp for 12 weeks with standard pct and see how you handle it all. 15 weeks is just a bit long to be shut down IMO-but many do cycles that length and are fine so its more about personal choice.

My best cycle was my first one:
Week 1-6: 60mg Anavar per day.
Week 1-10: 500mg Testoviron per week.


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