24-week Primo + Test cycle

Hey guys, just need some advice on a couple things for my next cycle. I'm planning on running the following:

Week 1-24: Test Enanthate 600mg/week
Week 1-24: Primobolan 500mg/week
Week 1-24: Proviron 40mg/day

PCT will be Doc's, Proviron will be continued until just before start of PCT

Questions: What will be my clearance time before starting PCT? I was guessing 3 x half-life = 32 days for Enanthate

Also, would running Proviron for such an extended period of time be advisable? Not too sure how heavy it is on the liver.

I don't know whether to add in another oral such as Tbol or Dbol at the beginning to help kickstart things, was thinking against it since I will be on for pretty much half the year.

Any advice and comments will be appreciated.

Thanks guys

Leave the frontload and Proviron.

No HCG on cycle? 24 weeks is a very long time to suppress your balls boet. Even with Ovidrel/HCG in PCT that can't guarantee that you will reverse your atrophy by the time PCT is over. Rather play it safe. Especially at 35+ years old. I've run gear for quite a bit longer than that and I'd never without HCG.

Proviron at only 40mg/day is fine for 6 months as long as your liver is all good now. It's been precribed at 150mg/day for much longer periods and its very mild on the liver. Even 3 years at 150mg/day shows normal liver function. Everything else looks good I reckon. Damn, I'd love to have a long run with primo when the finances permit. What's your AI of choice?

I would also leave the frontload. But if you don't want to wait I'd probably go with test prop.

Thanks for the info, guys. Now that you mention it, Muscleaddict, I probably should add in HCG during the cycle. Do you think 250iu per week will be fine? Or 500iu?

@jack why do you say to leave out the Proviron?

I'd do x2 shots a week. Testosterone production from the HCG peaks around 4 days after the HCG shot so blood levels are more stable that way. 250IU x 2 a week is fine. If you have the 5000IU vial might as well up it to 500IU x2 a week since it only lasts 30 days in the fridge.

I do 250iu for the 2 days prior to my weekly shot. Always add HCG on cycle i'd say.

As for Proviron, cant see a reason why you should run it. You have Test + 2 DHT's.
Why not see what the Primo gives you first. Then add the Proviron for the last 12 weeks to see if it adds anything. Maybe free up some test keeping the SHBG busy.... but how much - maybe not really worth it in the big picture.

I liked Proviron in the past and always included it in all my cycles. I found that it shoots my libido through the roof and then drops it right down again. And thats keeping the dosage and other factors constant.

What you say does make sense, Jack. I too, love using Proviron in my cycles, mostly because of the libido effect. I've never used it for longer than 12 weeks, though, and thus never felt that dip that you mentioned. So I guess I'll run the Test E and Primo, and then see what happens after 12 weeks before deciding whether to add in Proviron just like you say.

So with the HCG, say if you were jabbing the Test and Primo on a Monday, you would then take 250iu on Saturday and Sunday? From the start of the cycle all the way through, or should I wait for a bit?

I like Adex at 0.5mg EOD for on-cycle AI. I'm thinking to just keep it on hand and start using if I feel any gyno sides happening.

Am I correct in waiting 32 days before starting PCT?

Yes - you must feel what that Test and Primo does for you. You will enjoy it.
No harm in starting HCG with your second shot.

Not sure about PCT start.

I agree with JR, test and primo is a great combo and you feel like a million bucks. Even primo on its own works well...

Vin, HCG is very cheap so why not add it in from the start. Do two shots a week each 250iu - maybe on wed and sat. An AI is also a good idea but you won't need such a large dose...remember primobolan and proviron both have anti-estrogen properties which will help with estro sides. Perhaps A-dex at 0.5mg E4D but this will also depend if you are prone to gyno/acne or not.

After 24 weeks on test & primo you will need to do a proper PCT to get everything back to normal. I would do a full Doctari PCT if I was you.

Thanks Stu, I'm definitely going to follow JR's advice. I'm going to do 2x250iu hcg per week all the way through the cycle, and will decide on the Proviron at 12 weeks in.

I'll keep the Adex on hand and will only administer it if gyno symptoms come up. I don't have a problem with acne, but at high doses of test (+900mg) the gyno symptoms do appear. So, you're correct, 0.5mg E4D might be the way to go if I do need to.

My PCT is and always has been Doc's full protocol. I never take chances when it comes to PCT, and Doc has been a lifesaver for all of us with this protocol.

I've never used Primo before, and have heard only good things about it, so keen to see what I can get from it. I'll be starting first week in July, and PCT will finish end of Feb next year.

How did this one go?About the right time for some feedback!