Megusta's Cycle Log

Will be starting my 1st cycle soon and be posting pics and progress here.
The goal of my 1st cycle is solid gains on the leaner side. Hope to see good results and hope to gain AT LEAST 5kg's of solid muscle.

Cycle as follows:

Week 1-4 LP Oral Turanibol 20 - 60mg/day *
Week 1-12 PGW Test Cyp 250 - 250mg /2 x week (Monday; Thursday)
Week 1-2 LP Proviron 20 - 20mg/day
Week 3-12 LP Proviron 20 - 40mg/day (INCREASE FROM WEEK 3)

Bridge:
Week 12-16 LP Oral Turanibol 20 - 40mg/day
Week 13-16 LP Proviron 20 - 60mg/day
Week 16-21 LP Clen & Ketotifen *

PCT:
Week 17-21 Doctari PCT No.3

Just a couple of questions before i finalise my cycle.

1. I'm thinking of increasing the 4 week front of Tbol to 5 weeks to make the most of it. Would that be advised and is it worth it results wise?

2. Should i be running any AI whilst on cycle? Arimidex, Letro etc. As this is my 1st cycle, i'm not sure if i'm gyno prone, but i don't want to take any chances.Keeping in mind that I also don't want to suppress estro too much as to increase negative sides from low estrogenlike sore, dry joints and having a negative impact my on gains.

3. Id like to add Hcg in the middle of my cycle just to prevent any Gonad atrophy. Looking at my dosages, what would be the best protocol for me regarding dosages and where/when exactly it will go into my cycle. From what i read the usual is 500iu x2 a week but Would that count for everyone, including someone that uses 1000mg of test and Tren a week on cycle or would i have to use less because my dosages is less?

4. I'm starting clen 1 week before pct starts. Should I start it with my bridge rather and then it will end 1 week into the pct or is it better to run it during pct.

5. Any other suggestions?

Hey megusta

Your probably fucking excited - So am I, starting at the end of the month.

I dont see any reason not to increase the tbol dosage after all your first cycle is best and you might as well make the most of it.

Keep arimidex on hand not letro, it will last more than one cycle. Letro is harsh (decreased sex drive,sore joints,less gains,kakker immune system etc). Your running proviron on cycle so I really dont think your gonna get gyno anyway, but keep on hand!

On another serious note, too much hcg can cause infertility so I would not include it in pct as well as on cycle. If you want to you can use it during the last few weeks @500iu's biweekly. Then normal pct with clomid,nolva,aromasin(optional though I would advocate its use).

You should achieve your goal if diet is in check and training is good although I would be dissapointed if I only gain 5kgs!! Lol

Lastly, EAT EAT EAT! TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN! REST RECOVER GROW!

Goodluck tjommie Ill be following your thread

nice bro. im subscribed to your log all the best

Wish you all the best for your cycle good luck bud.

Your cycle looks good bro!

1) Test-Cyp only really kicks in at about week 6-7 maybe even later. Also T-Bol reaches peak concentration at around week 3 so I would say run it at 60mg for 6 weeks since that is effectively your frontload time. 4 Weeks is very shy.

2) Unless you wish to have chick tits you MUST have an AI on hand. Like Gorilla said Arimidex and not Letro.

4) I would say run the Clen during PCT. It gives you something to work with during that depressing time.

5) You say that you want to run Proviron at 20mg for the first two weeks. 20mg is not gonna do shit bro. Also 40mg is on the shy side I would do 50mg minimum.

Pyroclasm wrote: Your cycle looks good bro!

1) Test-Cyp only really kicks in at about week 6-7 maybe even later. Also T-Bol reaches peak concentration at around week 3 so I would say run it at 60mg for 6 weeks since that is effectively your frontload time. 4 Weeks is very shy.

2) Unless you wish to have chick tits you MUST have an AI on hand. Like Gorilla said Arimidex and not Letro.

4) I would say run the Clen during PCT. It gives you something to work with during that depressing time.

5) You say that you want to run Proviron at 20mg for the first two weeks. 20mg is not gonna do shit bro. Also 40mg is on the shy side I would do 50mg minimum.

The LP proviron comes in 20mg. Should i rather just go to 60mg then and stick with that dose till the end, right thru the bridge or should i increase the dose during the bridge to 80mg then?

The reasoning behind the low dose proviron during the first two weeks is that i figured that there won't be that much test to free up anyway?

OK, so i do the tbol for 6 weeks and then another 5 weeks during the bridge. I was advised by admin to start with 60mg during my frontload and drop the dose to 40mg during the bridge.

IMO use 60mg from the beginning, right up until PCT. thats what im doing on my cycle at the moment

I would say a very good dose to run is 60mg like RVP said that's where you will get your the most benefit out of the Proviron without going into the zone of diminished returns. However I don't think you need to run it at 60mg from the start because as you say there won't be that must test to free up at the beginning and you don't need to worry about keeping off water retention because you are running T-Bol and not D-Bol. So why not do like I did which is 40mg for the first two weeks and then 60mg up to your PCT.

Interesting that admin would suggest that you drop your dose to 40mg during your bridge. Did he maybe say why bro?

Im not sure if this is the admin that is on the forum. I sent an e-mail to the admin in the " Contact us" area of the screen. I didn't ask why. It might have been a typo though.

Anyone think that i must drop my Tbol dosage from 60mg per day to 40mg per day during my bridge? :blink:

Would be interesting to know hey so let me know bro!

Megusta wrote: OK, so i do the tbol for 6 weeks and then another 5 weeks during the bridge. I was advised by admin to start with 60mg during my frontload and drop the dose to 40mg during the bridge.

The idea behind the drop in dose is to save you money. If you want to squeeze out a little more gains from your cycle you can keep it at 60mg per day, but if you only want to stay anabolic during this period you can drop it to 40mg per day.

Also, if you want to keep an AI on hand incase you need it for estrogenic side-effects you can use Letrozole or Anastrozole. Those that say Letro will not work have no idea what they talk about. I advice hundreds of guys every month to use Letrozole due to the lower price and they have no problems. I use Letro myself if I urgently need to suppress estrogen. It takes a couple of weeks for Letro to reach it's full potential, but it still lowers estrogen from the moment you take it.

admin wrote: .....I use Letro myself if I urgently need to suppress estrogen. It takes a couple of weeks for Letro to reach it's full potential, but it still lowers estrogen from the moment you take it.

Thats no joke. Works immediately for me as well and that at 2 drops every 2 days. When things settle down after a week or two i go off it again.

@jr: is every two days eod or is it a two day break between doses?

Do you do like monday 2 drops and then thursday 2 drops and then sunday 2 drops?

tried my 1st shot this morning. By nature i'm scared shitless of nedles! Anyhow,it went into my quad and i felt nothing. I even said to my self: Wow don't feel a thing...the needle was half way in and then my quad started to twitch like a mofo, so i pulled the needle out. Whats up with that. I can't remember that it was hurting. I'm going to replace the needle and try again, but there seems to be an air bubble that doesn't want to get lost!

your prob went too deep and hit a nerve or something. dont stress about a little bubble. wont do any harm

how deep am i supposed to go then? aint i supposed to push the whole needle in?

what needle you using? 1.5"?

1.5

Stick it all the way in dude and don't stress about lil bubbles. REMEMBER to aspirate before injecting.

is the twitching normal?
When i aspirate and there is blood, am i supposed to through away the syringe and draw new test?

yeah the twitching happens. i pin glutes though. i remember gorilla complaining about his quads twitching when he pins. no just throw away the needle and get a new one. dont waste test :woohoo: thats pretty much a sin

wont the blood contaminate the test?

why? its your own blood

@RVP: Morning my dude! I am not so sure hey if you read the injection protocols article you will see that they are very specific to throw away the test, needle and syringe and to start over. I wonder why?