Turinabol / tbol

Hi Guys, new member here.

I've been on cycle before, 10 weeks, 1 ml/week sust 250 and pct of kessar.
I'm 20 years old, 180cm, 76kg +- 13% body fat. I gained 10kg off of the sust, but lost 4 after pct and a shoulder injury.

I'm looking into turinabol as i dont want outrageous gains but would like to put on some solid muscle and retain it.. What ive read about tbol tells me its similar (not as powerful) to dbol and has almost none of the sides.. I'm looking to gain adleast 4kg's in a 5 week tbol cycle, what are your guys thoughts?

Much appreciated

4kg in 5weeks from turinabol is not going to happen.

So what direction should i be heading in?

You can still use Turinabol, but don't have such high expectations regarding gains because you will be disappointed. ±2kg is a better estimate for 5 weeks of Turinabol.

get a good diet, start eating and training properly. at 1.8m and 76kgs you are very small, especially for someone with a cycle under their belt

Well truth is I went into my first cycle blind (very stupid i know) and did not use it to its full potential. I've got an ectomorph build and find it extremely hard to gain muscle even on a high carb diet. i understand i'm still young and i'm just looking for advice from those of you with an indepth knowledge in the subject.

If im wasting my time with tbol i want to know..

yes you are wasting your time with tbol. post your diet for us lets see

Meal 1.) Oats, toast, jam
Meal 2.) Mass shake
meal 3.) high carb (usually lasagne + rice)
meal 4.) Toast + Peanut butter/boiled eggs
meal 5.) Chicken breast/minute steak + cous cous/sweet potato + shake (post workout)

doesnt look like much protein there. you sure you getting at least 2.2grams of protein per KG of lean mass?

So i should be taking 3 shakes a day? or eat more proteins such as eggs and meats? +- 160g protein a day?

you can take as many shakes as you want. but you need to eat whole foods. yes more chicken, eggs, lean mince, lean steak, etc.

looks like we have found your problem bud?

Thanks feathers, definitely going to take it into consideration and see what changes come the next few weeks.

sweet mate. you need to get your diet in check first before you consider juice. have a look at DJ's dieting 101, and 102 stickies. ill post a link for you.

best piece of advice ive heard, " you need to know your macros, if you want to mac ho's" :lol:

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...ing-101?limitstart=0
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...wn-diet?limitstart=0

Spot on advice from our Feathery friend.

In fact you can gain MORE than 5kg in 5 weeks at your size and age. Just do some calculations to get your calorie intake and macro breakdown right. Then stick to it. Train HARD, Rest.

Fuck I wish I was 20 again...... :S

DBatDBN wrote: Spot on advice from our Feathery friend.

In fact you can gain MORE than 5kg in 5 weeks at your size and age. Just do some calculations to get your calorie intake and macro breakdown right. Then stick to it. Train HARD, Rest.

Fuck I wish I was 20 again...... :S

5kg muscle in 5 weeks? No you can't! Don't give the guy false hope.

The only way you'll pick up 5kg in 5 weeks is by hitting Mc donalds, but that's not the 5kg you want.. Have you seen what 5kg of Fillet steak looks like. Most people won't gain and keep that off a full cycle.

Ok then half that! Don't shoot me.

im almost end of 7th week of provi 40mg, tbol 60mg and cyp250 x2/week and i have gained 10kg's since i started. It's not alot i know. This is my first cycle as well. I ran the tbol for 6 weeks as a starter. Bloat is minimal and i'm still lean like before the cycle. Shoe admin, i hope some of that is mucle hey!

that is a lot

alexandersupertramp wrote: So what direction should i be heading in?

Dude, 4 to 5kgs... Just eat and eat and eat. Don't need steroids.

alexandersupertramp wrote: Meal 1.) Oats, toast, jam
Meal 2.) Mass shake
meal 3.) high carb (usually lasagne + rice)
meal 4.) Toast + Peanut butter/boiled eggs
meal 5.) Chicken breast/minute steak + cous cous/sweet potato + shake (post workout)

I think everybody on here would be an ectomorph on that diet. Except maybe Jakes.. Have a read on the dieting stickies bud they are your best bet going forward.

Pyroclasm wrote:

alexandersupertramp wrote: Meal 1.) Oats, toast, jam
Meal 2.) Mass shake
meal 3.) high carb (usually lasagne + rice)
meal 4.) Toast + Peanut butter/boiled eggs
meal 5.) Chicken breast/minute steak + cous cous/sweet potato + shake (post workout)

I think everybody on here would be an ectomorph on that diet. Except maybe Jakes.. Have a read on the dieting stickies bud they are your best bet going forward.

Needs a bit of work?

Jakes or the diet? Definately both.

alexandersupertramp

This is a sample of what i had yesterday.

1- smoothie: 5 strawberries, 2 banannas, tub of fatfree yoghurt,250ml FF milk, tsp creatine, tsp greens powder, scoop protein and omega 3 caps

2- 3x boiled eggs and 1 piece ostritch wors + half avo

3- 3x boiled eggs and biltong + half avo + mixed salad with spinach, tomato, red oinion, small feta and omega 3 caps

4 (pre workout meal)- 150g chicken wrap and a bananna or two (or any fruit)

5 (post workout shake) - mass shake with 1 liter ff milk and 2 extra scoops whey + creatine

6- 200g mince curry and vegies with patato or sweet potato.+ omega 3