Beginner oral only bulking cycle.

V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 13:04 #127787 by V1rus

Beginner oral only bulking cycle. was created by V1rus

Okay so after a lot of searching and reading I have come up with what I believe will be my first cycle.

I really really scared of needles doctors usually need to press met to the bed to inject me and that is the reason for oral only.

Stats:
20 (almost 21)
85kg
1.87m

The cycle:
D-bol 30mg/day week 1-4 then 20mg/day week 5-9
Anadrol 50mg/day week 5-8
Clomid 50mg/day for 5 days in week 9 and 11.
Kessar?? 20mg/day week 4 then 30 mg/day week 5-6 then 40mg/day week 7-8.

Will add milk thistle to the whole cycle and a week before I begin.

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Bandit
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08 Nov 2012 13:23 #127791 by Bandit

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Not to be rude, so don't take this the wrong way...
I think you need to do some more research and reading. That is not a good cycle. Have a look at the beginner cycles on this forum.
As for not wanting to inject, you need to get over that fear if you want to be in this game. I also hated injections until I did my first pin... Now I pin every day without any hassles. Get yourself some B12 and practice with that lol

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CHAPEL
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08 Nov 2012 13:36 #127794 by CHAPEL

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No.

This is shit.

You want to use steroids man up and inject. This scared of needles excuse is pathetic.

IF you want to do oral only, then you do anavar and proviron which will cost a fair amount but you don't make a cycle like that when you have 83 posts.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 13:44 #127798 by V1rus

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Okay thanks guys point taken.

I have really been looking hard at the Anavar/Proviron sample cycle. Just thought its more of a weight loss cycle. I just want something to gain a little bit of weight and strength.

Im not asking for a source or whatever but about how much will the Anavar/Proviron cycle cost?

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CHAPEL
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08 Nov 2012 13:46 #127800 by CHAPEL

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You can't ask that either.......

Your gains will be diet dependent. If you want to put on weight you will. And of course you will get strength? Its a steroid after all.

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 13:47 #127802 by V1rus

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Okay thanks disregard the question.

Okay I really want to gain weight and will save up a lot for a nice diet and the cycle.

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MK
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08 Nov 2012 13:51 #127804 by MK

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Ask your source how much it will cost, don't ask here.

Anavar and Proviron are not steroid primarily used for fatloss, like Chapel said it's got a lot to do with what you eat and how much of it you eat.

Seriously dude, go to the pharmacy today (eg: Dischem) and get some B12, it costs like R20. Get some pins and some syringes and some alcohol swabs and use Google and Youtube to learn from tutorial videos for example of how to do shots. Its painless I promise you. I was scared shitless of needles before I did this, and after my first pin I realised how much of a little girl I was being.

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CHAPEL
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08 Nov 2012 13:56 #127806 by CHAPEL

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And remember to get B12, because if you get B-comp, you will shit yourself and never go near an injectable again. And B12 will hurt more than a normal steroid so you will get over the fear.

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 13:57 #127808 by V1rus

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@MK like seriously I am just to much of a wuss

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And I personally like the idea of a correct oral cycle more than an injectable one. I would also rather take oral first to see how my body reacts etc and then in a couple of years when I am older I will try a proper injectable cycle.

For now I prefer an oral cycle. I would just spend a lot of cash on a proper PCT and liver support/joint support.

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Bandit
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08 Nov 2012 14:06 #127812 by Bandit

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Another thing... Its not just the gear that's expensive... What do you plan on eating to bulk while on cycle???

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mike123
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08 Nov 2012 14:08 #127814 by mike123

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U are still very young my pal ...should be able to gain by eating a good diet ..would be a lot cheaper as the Anavar wil be 3 to 4 big ones double that of the test cycle and like the guys are saying u will have to inject ...scary thought until u actually do and even then it can still be..takes a while to get over for some but u are going to have to if u chose that rout later. alternative is a 6 week T bol cycle but your best gains are your first cycle so u want to use test.
Do some more reading especialy the DJ diet stickies

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 14:15 #127815 by V1rus

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Yup I have been reading a lot on the Dieting101 and 102 stickies, I think I have my diet sorted out and now its just a cycle that I need sorting out.

I read a lot about Tbol but most guys that I have read about run it Tbol only. I couldn't find a good oral only Tbol cycle with proper PCT.

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 14:19 #127817 by V1rus

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What I have read was;
6 Weeks of tbol followed by 3 weeks of Nolvadex.

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mike123
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08 Nov 2012 14:20 #127818 by mike123

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Tbol at 40 to 60mg per day pct no1...u are going to get the feel and whish u were doing test as well ...your choice.

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 14:24 #127820 by V1rus

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So lets say;
Tbol -
Week 1-2 = 40mg/day
Week 3-5 = 60mg/day
Week 6 = 80mg/day

Then PCT 1 the day after I am done with the Tbol ?

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mike123
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08 Nov 2012 14:38 - 08 Nov 2012 14:39 #127824 by mike123

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week 1 to 3 40mg
week 4 to 6 60mg

liver supps

pct no 1 .. 2 days after last Tbol

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iMan
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08 Nov 2012 15:01 #127829 by iMan

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Whats your bf?

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 16:10 #127846 by V1rus

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6 pack shows without flexing and machine at VA says 12% so I would say bf is about 10-14%.

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Theodoric
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08 Nov 2012 16:44 #127851 by Theodoric

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V1rus wrote: Yup I have been reading a lot on the Dieting101 and 102 stickies, I think I have my diet sorted out and now its just a cycle that I need sorting out.

Last time you said you barely got enough to eat at the koshuis? This is not something you want to mess around with, I agree with the rest of the guys, nut up and do injectables.

But what I remember last from you posting stats and pics of yourself, it seemed like you still had some way to go as a natural before considering AAS, I would calm down for a bit if I were you. Get a proper 5-7 meals a day diet, gym your ass off for a couple of months, see good gains from that first. Eventually, you might start to think of doing a cycle. Aren't you kinda young too? (just asking, I don't know your age)

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 16:51 #127853 by V1rus

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I am 20, would probably start the cycle once I reach 21. This vacation I will start with a good diet and try to maintain it from there.

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Muscleaddict
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08 Nov 2012 16:55 - 08 Nov 2012 16:58 #127854 by Muscleaddict

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Terrible idea. Yes there are guys your age on the forum who use AAS, but 20 years old is too young unless you are planning to compete in bodybuilding you should not be doing steroids yet, period. The key to growing is eating.

What's worse is you've been around the forum a while and still want to do such a terrible cycle. :blink:

Since you're going to do a steroid cycle anyway at least do it properly dude. Man up, how can you picture yourself deadlifting double your bodyweight if you can't even take a testosterone injection that hurts less than popping a zit?

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Theodoric
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08 Nov 2012 17:20 #127860 by Theodoric

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V1rus wrote: I am 20, would probably start the cycle once I reach 21. This vacation I will start with a good diet and try to maintain it from there.

I'm with Muscleaddict on this one, terrible idea.

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V1rus
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08 Nov 2012 17:26 #127863 by V1rus

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Muscleaddict wrote: Terrible idea. Yes there are guys your age on the forum who use AAS, but 20 years old is too young unless you are planning to compete in bodybuilding you should not be doing steroids yet, period. The key to growing is eating.

What's worse is you've been around the forum a while and still want to do such a terrible cycle. :blink:

Since you're going to do a steroid cycle anyway at least do it properly dude. Man up, how can you picture yourself deadlifting double your bodyweight if you can't even take a testosterone injection that hurts less than popping a zit?

Thats funny!.

Okay maybe you guys are right , rather talk to DJ for a diet?

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aspoester
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08 Nov 2012 19:06 #127870 by aspoester

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your money will be much better spent on a decent diet by DJ and spending a bit on a good quality whey. Other than that, give yourself at least a year of solid training with the diet and correct supplements and you will grow like a weed.

i started aas young so im not here to judge you, but you really need to be committed to this lifestyle if its what you choose there's no going back. So give yourself some time, read read and read some more and make the decision that not only makes sense now, make one you will be happy to live with in your 40s,50s etc.

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iMan
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08 Nov 2012 19:37 #127876 by iMan

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So what do you guys think the appropriate age will be for a recreational user?

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