Cycle ideas for 2013

Greetings Peeps

So I think it's safe to say that time has come to start planning my new years cycle, been off now for around 7 weeks, and still 6 to go before the new year,

Just looking for some ideas and input on what you guys think,

Since my last cycle iv pretty much maintained weight at 96kgs, conditioning has gone slightly but abs are still visible so I'm guessing around 12ish %

Anyway, onto the cycle. Looking to run some short esters for around 9-12 weeks, of whatever I decide on.

My last cycle was testen + npp , with a winny proviron bridge with docs pct.

Options iv considered are; and looking for some hard lean mass goal of 100kgs.

Cycle 1

Test prop 200mg Eod
Npp 150mg Eod
Anavar 60mg pd

Cycle 2

Test prop 150mg Eod
Tren ace 80mg eod
Anavar 60mg pd

I will be new to var and tren, quite keen to see how they work, but running test prop, var and tren is going to cost a very pretty penny for a short cycle so any input will be great, iv also considered long esters as below;

Cycle 3

Test cyp 750mg pw
Npp 450mg pw
Var 60mg pd

Cycle 4

Test cyp 750mg pw
Tren enanthate 300mg pw
Var 60mg pd

Reason for cyp is iv never tried it, only enanthate so willing to give it a go.. As for the var, will be run the last 8 weeks till pct of what ever cycle I go for

Pct will remain doc's as it really recoved me last time so I'm happy with that.

Diet will be through dj in the new year again, (he just doesn't know it yet;))

As always Adex and ancillaries will be on hand

That's it for my babble,

I'm open to any and all info, got 6 weeks to find something solid

Thanks guys!

Pp

Howsit bud

I reckon cycle 1 sounds like the best option. If you're only looking to get to 100kgs lean, I'd say don't bother with Tren. Yes it is the big daddy of lean mass gains, but I don't personally feel the potential sides are worth it, and that you can reach that goal of yours easily with less compounds (and therefore less suppression).

Another option you could try is dropping your bf to sub-10, and maybe just using Mast Prop and Test Prop with Var? I think that could potentially be very nice for your goals. You could include the NPP but I don't know if you want to be running that many compounds...

Iv also considered the mast prop, but like you say, bf has to be rather low to get any beneficial effects,

I'm not that concerned about too many compounds as iv had experience with npp and thoughly enjoyed it, I just wouldnt want to stack tren as it would be my first time on the compound, also I'm in no rush to try it, just too curious for my own good.

I also liked the idea of cycle one, although running stupid amounts of vials of test prop is not appealing to my pocket either for like 10 weeks haha :silly: ?? As I don't think I'll be too comfortable to run a less then or equal to 1:1 ratio of test and 19nor. .?

Yeah you'll need exactly 7 vials of Test Prop haha, so it will be pretty pricey. Maybe think about dropping the NPP dose slightly, and swapping the Var for a Winny and Proviron combo? I'd wait longer and would rather use Var over the Winny & Proviron combo, but just making suggestions for you.

On the other hand, although you will put on more water than running Test Prop, why not try Testen and just keep a very strict diet to control the bloat?

Yea I'm also more inclined for the var, as my last cycle I used a winny/proviron bridge and I used testen too, so looking for some totally new compounds to run this cycle, what I might do is look at cyp, with some npp, similar to cycle 3 I posted,

Not too worried about water bloat, I'm not one to hold water on cycle and diet is normally always clean. Thanks for the suggestion bud!

Going to work out a hell of a lot cheaper to hit 3 vials of cyp then 7 test prop hahah so my wallet thanks you

Iv got 2 paydays before I'll start, even if it takes me into feb only to start I'm not in a rush,

Have you used masteron, or var?

Haha awesome bro :)If you're not one to hold water, and even if you do and you're not worried about it then definitely go the Cyp or Enanthate route.

Yeah no rush, and that way you can make decisions and possible changes to your cycle before you purchased it all.

And my recent Test Prop cycle was my 'first proper cycle'. I ran OralTech Var last year (when I did not know what I was doing) for 30 days at 30mg per day. My diet wasn't structured then either, but I managed to put on 4kgs that I kept, and I got way more vascular. Was not holding water either, and OralTech is a reputable brand, so I doubt it was mixed with Dbol or anything.

I'd say definitely try the Var