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23 Nov 2012 09:44 - 23 Nov 2012 09:50 #128845
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Hey Guys,
Dont know if there is a topic on this already but i found this interesting!
Using a Dirty Bodybuilding Trick... the Legal Version
Drug-using bodybuilders who diet down using an ''anabolic diet type'' diet (5-6 days low carbs / 1-2 days carb-up) have been using a dirty and dangerous trick to quickly bonk themselves into ketosis. Ketosis is a state where your body produces ketones, an indication your body has switched to a fat-adapted metabolism (using primarily fat for fuel).
The faster you can get in ketosis, the more effective the low-carb diet becomes. A low-carb diet is also much easier physiologically and psychologically when you're in ketosis. Why? Because the brain can only use carbs and ketones for fuel. When you go low carbs but aren't yet in ketosis, your brain will crave carbs for energy and you get sugar cravings. When ketones are being produced, the brain will use them instead and you won't crave carbs as much.
After a normal carb-up, it takes 2-3 days of low-carbs dieting/training to get back in ketosis. This only leaves 2-3 days per week of maximal and comfortable fat loss. (Note that you'll still lose fat during the first 2-3 days in which ketosis isn't yet established.)
Some bodybuilders have been using insulin to get into ketosis faster. Insulin drives blood glucose into the muscles and reduces the mobilization of glycogen for fuel. As a result, your blood sugar goes down and the body switches to a ketogenic state much faster.
So instead of taking 2-3 days to get into ketosis, it takes them a 1/2 day. They use the insulin (low doses, around 3IU, of Humalog, the fastest acting insulin) every 2 hours in the evening while consuming only protein and some fats. This obviously leads to very low blood sugar (which is why it's very dangerous) and by next morning they're already in ketosis.
As I mentioned, don't try this on your own. Using insulin is already dangerous as it is, but it's even more so when you're not ingesting carbs! It could lead to hypoglycemia, diabetic coma, or even death!
A safer (and legal) way to accomplish the same thing is to use Leucine for the same purpose as insulin. Leucine is a ketogenic amino acid. It leads to a large (but within your own natural limits) insulin spike. If you don't consume any carbs 1 hour prior and up to 2 hours after ingesting leucine, your blood glucose will lower significantly, helping you reach ketosis faster.
You can do this on your carb-up day, which would look like this:
Morning (1-2 meals): carbs from fruit to fill liver glycogen first
Between 11 am and 2 pm (2 meals): carbs from starchy sources (rice, yams, potatoes, etc.)
Mid-afternoon meal (around 3-4 pm): last carb meal of the day... high glycemic carbs
And from 4 pm you only have protein and fat along with ingesting 5-10g of leucine every 2 hours (5 pm, 7 pm, 9 pm, 11 pm for example). The key is no carbs after 3-4 pm.
This will help you get into ketosis much faster and it will be both easier and more effective to diet down while in a low carb state.
Note that this method can be further enhanced by using supplements that enhance insulin sensitivity (R-ALA, fenugreek, fish oil, etc.), the first two ingredients being found in Biotest's Receptor Max and the third in Biotest's Flameout.
What do you guys think on this theory, And would using Slin to get into Keto for fat-loss and only using small amounts (1-2UI) Post workout help with gains (Nutrition)?
Dont know if there is a topic on this already but i found this interesting!
Using a Dirty Bodybuilding Trick... the Legal Version
Drug-using bodybuilders who diet down using an ''anabolic diet type'' diet (5-6 days low carbs / 1-2 days carb-up) have been using a dirty and dangerous trick to quickly bonk themselves into ketosis. Ketosis is a state where your body produces ketones, an indication your body has switched to a fat-adapted metabolism (using primarily fat for fuel).
The faster you can get in ketosis, the more effective the low-carb diet becomes. A low-carb diet is also much easier physiologically and psychologically when you're in ketosis. Why? Because the brain can only use carbs and ketones for fuel. When you go low carbs but aren't yet in ketosis, your brain will crave carbs for energy and you get sugar cravings. When ketones are being produced, the brain will use them instead and you won't crave carbs as much.
After a normal carb-up, it takes 2-3 days of low-carbs dieting/training to get back in ketosis. This only leaves 2-3 days per week of maximal and comfortable fat loss. (Note that you'll still lose fat during the first 2-3 days in which ketosis isn't yet established.)
Some bodybuilders have been using insulin to get into ketosis faster. Insulin drives blood glucose into the muscles and reduces the mobilization of glycogen for fuel. As a result, your blood sugar goes down and the body switches to a ketogenic state much faster.
So instead of taking 2-3 days to get into ketosis, it takes them a 1/2 day. They use the insulin (low doses, around 3IU, of Humalog, the fastest acting insulin) every 2 hours in the evening while consuming only protein and some fats. This obviously leads to very low blood sugar (which is why it's very dangerous) and by next morning they're already in ketosis.
As I mentioned, don't try this on your own. Using insulin is already dangerous as it is, but it's even more so when you're not ingesting carbs! It could lead to hypoglycemia, diabetic coma, or even death!
A safer (and legal) way to accomplish the same thing is to use Leucine for the same purpose as insulin. Leucine is a ketogenic amino acid. It leads to a large (but within your own natural limits) insulin spike. If you don't consume any carbs 1 hour prior and up to 2 hours after ingesting leucine, your blood glucose will lower significantly, helping you reach ketosis faster.
You can do this on your carb-up day, which would look like this:
Morning (1-2 meals): carbs from fruit to fill liver glycogen first
Between 11 am and 2 pm (2 meals): carbs from starchy sources (rice, yams, potatoes, etc.)
Mid-afternoon meal (around 3-4 pm): last carb meal of the day... high glycemic carbs
And from 4 pm you only have protein and fat along with ingesting 5-10g of leucine every 2 hours (5 pm, 7 pm, 9 pm, 11 pm for example). The key is no carbs after 3-4 pm.
This will help you get into ketosis much faster and it will be both easier and more effective to diet down while in a low carb state.
Note that this method can be further enhanced by using supplements that enhance insulin sensitivity (R-ALA, fenugreek, fish oil, etc.), the first two ingredients being found in Biotest's Receptor Max and the third in Biotest's Flameout.
What do you guys think on this theory, And would using Slin to get into Keto for fat-loss and only using small amounts (1-2UI) Post workout help with gains (Nutrition)?
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23 Nov 2012 10:25 #128850
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If working on body and character doesnt cost you something its woth noting. If criticism is all that proceed out of your mouth then know that is how you feel about yourself and depicts the health of your soul.
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no one here will answer any related slin topics.
If working on body and character doesnt cost you something its woth noting. If criticism is all that proceed out of your mouth then know that is how you feel about yourself and depicts the health of your soul.
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23 Nov 2012 13:32 #128870
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Ok thanks, Why? Is it not allowed?
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gab wrote: no one here will answer any related slin topics.
Ok thanks, Why? Is it not allowed?
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23 Nov 2012 13:35 #128871
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insulin is a very dangerous substance to use thats why... even the mist experienced users can die using this if not careful. rather not play with insulin at all.
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23 Nov 2012 13:40 #128872
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Cool thanks guys
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DJ wrote: insulin is a very dangerous substance to use thats why... even the mist experienced users can die using this if not careful. rather not play with insulin at all.
Cool thanks guys
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23 Nov 2012 13:55 #128873
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what is Leucine ? dischem ?
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23 Nov 2012 16:26 #128876
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Dan Duchaine the old school guru wrote about this kind of slin use. He called it the Death Wish Diet, nuff said.
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