Second cycle help / guidance / advice - Please :)

Good morning guys

After much self-deliberation and thought, I decided to begin a second cycle and wanted some help and advice. Some history… I’m in the gym for about 4-6 years. In 2010 I was in a car accident and had a hairline fracture yet continued to gym. In Dec I broke the arm in an arm wrestling fizz with a mate, LOL, yea dumb. Anyway I lost about 10kgs in the healing process. Began my first cycle of test prop, proviron and anavar after 18 months of healing to get back what I lost. Diet and workout was spot on and gained around 8-10 kgs. I’ve lost 4 kgs in the last 3 months due to poor eating habits and 2 gym visits in 3 months.

I’m now researching a second cycle and was looking for some guidance. I think in the first instance, let me thank DJ, VonD, Pyroclasm, GSP and a few others. Your comments and advice have been excellent and wish I found this site prior to beginning my golden cycle. Anyway, there’s always the second cycle

My stats:
Age: 27
Weight: 72 (dropped 4 kgs in the 3 months)
Body fat: Around 15-17%

The goal for this cycle is to drop body fat to around 8-10% while gaining about 4-5 kgs in lean muscle. I’m not looking to go animal because that would entail driving out to get different size clothes – costly affair

These are the details of my second cycle. I’d appreciate some advice if I am veering elsewhere as I have researched but never used clen or yohimbine.

Week 1-8: Test prop (I was thinking of adding some EQ, but at 8 weeks, it's going to do jack for me)
Week 1-8: Yohimbine
Week 5 to 8: Proviron
Week 1 to 2 and 5 to 6: Clen (pyramid; 20; 40; 60mg etc)

PCT: 2 weeks after my last prop injection
Week 11: Clomid – 100mg daily
Week 12 to 14: Nolvadex – 20mg daily

I will get some Betasleep just in case (Thanks Pyro – got this from a Clen post in which you intervened). Thanks for reading my essay, if I've left anything out, apologies in advance. Have a kick ass Boxing day!

Thanx bro always nice to get some recognition. I was laughing at the way you broke your arm: arm wrestling really?? We should get you on some Anaps then you can get your revenge and destroy that mofo! Regarding your cycle, the compounds are fine just some small suggestions. What dosages do you plan on running? Your PCT needs to include HCG as you are using test. Why do you only want to run the Proviron for 3 weeks? What do you plan on using for your bridge? Why do you only want to run the Clen for two weeks? Referring back to my post on Clen I explained that we can run Clen for much longer now that we have betasleep/ketotifen. Also start Clen at 40mcg not 20mcg. Have you considered adding Anavar to the mix?

Pleasure bro! And thank you for the help!

I had a look at my cycle and decided to modify the cycle a bit. The test prop will remain the same, and I'm running the Proviron throughout the course, i.e. 8 weeks. I'm also running the Clen and Yohimbine for the full duration. I was thinking of adding some TBol to dry up and lean out for the last 4 weeks, but I'm not too sure about that.. What do you think? I'm not a fan of DBol cos of the water retention.

For the bridge, I was thinking Anavar, I've got 14 days to chill before PCT. I've never bridged before - lack in education of course. Begin Clen at 40mcg - noted.

I'm going to go research on HCG. Thanks again for the help bro, it's much appreciated!

Sorry - totally forgot about the important question. My dosages:

Test prop - 300ml a week
TBol - 20mg a day
Anavar - 60mg a day
Proviron - 40mg a day
Clen - begin at 40, work up to 120mcg
Yohimbine - 20mg a day

Will use PCT 2 which includes the HCG.

Your dosages are too low.
Test Prop @450mg/week
Anavar is fine
Proviron 60mg
Clen is fine.
Yohimbine maybe too much for a beginner start at 10mg and see how it goes from there.

Hi brothers

I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner. I came online a few times in Dec and noticed the site down. Not sure what happened. Anyway, I began my course yesterday. But I changed it a bit. I will keep you up to date on my progress.

Age: 27
Weight: 73.5
Height: 1.78
BF: Guesstimate at 17%

Cycle:
Course
Week 1 to 3 - Tbol at 60mg
Week 1 to 10 - Sustaplex at 1ml a week
Week 7 to 10 - Clen at 40mcg and work up to 120mcg
Week 1 to 4 - Yohimbine at 10mg and again from week 7 to 10 (bring the body fat down a bit at the beginning of the course)

Bridging:
Week 8 to 12 - Proviron at 60mg
Week 11 to 12 - Anavar at 60mg

PCT
Week 9 to 12 - HCG at 250iu x 2 shots a week
Week 13 - Clomid
Week 14 to 16 - Nolvadex

Diet:
Breakfast
30g whey protein
60g oats

Meal 2
60g whey protein
2 teaspoons peanut butter

Meal 3
200g chicken
50g basmati rice / veg

Meal 4 (pre work out)
30g whey protein
2 teaspoons peanut butter

Meal 5 (post work out)
200g chicken
50g basmati rice / veg

Meal 6
30g whey protein
Glutamine
30g peanut butter

Yesterday was pretty good, felt very energetic (I think it was the Yohimbine). Pushed some animalistic weight on the repaired arm which actually had more endurance than the fixed one. Also didn't weigh correctly and brought 400g of chicken to work and forgot the peanut butter. I'll live to die another day.

Trying to take before and after pics, but time is a bit hectic.

T-Bol for 3 weeks is a waste. Anavar for two weeks is a complete waste. Run the Clen and yohimbine together. Add more protein to meal 1. Add LOTS of carbs to your PWO meal. You need a PWO shake.

Testaplex at 1ml per week is a complete waste. Are you sure you know what you are doing?

Thanks Pyro, I appreciate the crit. I was thinking of going 6 weeks with the Tbol but wasn't certain? I'm using Anavar just to maintain a bridge until PCT. I'm not looking to gain anything, but rather to keep stabilsation. Sorry about the typing, the last few bits of the diet were a bit rushed - at work at the moment. My meal 6 is meal 5 and vice versa. I eat the chicken one hour after gym, and will make amendments to the increase in carbs. Appreciate it, dude.

Sustaplex, not Testaplex. I know they have a few of the same chemicals. Would you suggest EOD injections?

Yes you need to inject frequently (EOD) because of the short esters in the test blend. I understand that you want to keep anabolic during your bridge bu tAnavar for 2 weeks isnt going to do anything. I would suggest you use Winstrol as it will do the job much better.

This is a very poorly strucktured cycle, using such long esters for 10weeks, what a waste. Anavar for two weeks? Seriously?