Clen muscle loss

christo11
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06 Jan 2013 11:55 #130661 by christo11

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Hi there guys

Need some advice...I'm about to start a tren test winny cycle don't worry guys not my first cycle but first with tren, my stats 98kg 185cm 15% bf

Have any of you used clen during a cut and lost muscle mass with it even thou u used anabolics with it and does clen make look flat?...I just read about those things guys n just wanted to hear from the local guys

Any help would be appreciated thanks

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Pyroclasm
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06 Jan 2013 15:11 #130668 by Pyroclasm

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Clen is slightly anti-catabolic so no dude you won't lose muscle. It is probably water loss.

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christo11
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07 Jan 2013 07:32 #130708 by christo11

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Thanks Pyroclasm for the reply...

While you used clen did it make u flat?...thanks bud

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Pyroclasm
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07 Jan 2013 10:44 #130715 by Pyroclasm

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Pleasure bro. I always thought I look slightly more pumped when on Clen as the blood flow is increased and you know that muscles like heat.

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christo11
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07 Jan 2013 20:54 #130756 by christo11

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Bro could you help me with the layout of the cycle?

I'm gna try the low dose test with a slightly higher tren

Week 1 - 8 Test E 250mg p/w or test prop 200 p/w
Week 1 - 6 winny 50mg ed
Week 1 -8 tren 75 eod

And with the clen cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and in those 2 weeks off use the yohimbine

How does that look bro? Thanks again

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Pyroclasm
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07 Jan 2013 21:07 #130757 by Pyroclasm

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Sure bro happy to help. I am speaking under correction here but I don't think you can do low dose test with Tren. I would also not for a fudge run Winstrol with Tren that's WAY too harsh on your system. Won't do Clen with Tren either the sides will rape you six ways from sunday. Sorry for the graphic image. Why not run a simple Test/Tren cycle as I am sure a first time with Tren you will be amazed with the results. I don't see the need to complicate it with anything else, especially for the reason that you wanna see how your body responds to the Tren. How many cycles have you done? I assume you are gonna run Tren-ace yes? Any reason why you want to run a low dose test?

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07 Jan 2013 21:09 - 07 Jan 2013 21:10 #130758 by Safehouse

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christo11 wrote: Bro could you help me with the layout of the cycle?

I'm gna try the low dose test with a slightly higher tren

Week 1 - 8 Test E 250mg p/w or test prop 200 p/w
Week 1 - 6 winny 50mg ed
Week 1 -8 tren 75 eod

And with the clen cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and in those 2 weeks off use the yohimbine

How does that look bro? Thanks again

For the clen you may have better results stacking it with yohimbine - I know I did. Just take ketotifen to upregulate your beta receptors for the clen, then there is no need to cycle on and off. Do this for 6 weeks with a solid diet and regular cardio and you will be sure to lose weight.

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christo11
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07 Jan 2013 22:11 #130765 by christo11

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3rd cycle bro first 2 was jus basic test n dbol second was test and npp

Bro I just read a lot of guys running high tren low tren saying it was better than high test...somethng about tren n test fight for the same receptors...i remember one of the guys on the forum he likes his test low n let the other anabolics run the show can't remember who thou...and yip its tren A

So you wouldn't run the tren with winny bud? Was trying to go for that hard dense look

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Pyroclasm
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07 Jan 2013 22:36 #130769 by Pyroclasm

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I would never do Winny with Tren. Why not opt for Anavar? It's mild on the system and that way you have a Test + 19-nor + DHT dream combo. Did you read the low test thing on this site? Like I said I am not 100% sure about this. Tren will give you that look bro trust me. Not meaning to play sergeant mother over here but why are you running Tren for a third cycle? Tbh I am shit scared of Tren judging from the feedback from on this site. Especially Tren cough and the insomnia and mood swings like a pregnant teenager. Eish!

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christo11
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08 Jan 2013 07:42 #130775 by christo11

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Bro is 6 weeks of clen safe and what did clen do to you physically?

Thanks bud

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christo11
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08 Jan 2013 08:59 #130779 by christo11

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@ Pyroclasm anavar is a bit pricey for me lol

I read about low test high tren on a few other sites they also mentioned that the low test will keep the tren sides low

Haha I'm also scared abt the tren sides but I think some guys that get all agro on it is jus bs lol...

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Pyroclasm
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08 Jan 2013 11:54 #130794 by Pyroclasm

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I Definately agree with you bro roid rage is a myth. That being said Tren is another customer altogether. You really have to watch that temper when using Tren and lots of guys say it has almost ended their marriages. I wouldn't trust other sites dude there is so much bro science out there. Here I know the mods know their stuff like the back of their hands and they don't allow bro science at all only fact.

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christo11
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08 Jan 2013 12:29 #130797 by christo11

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I had idea on the tren temper bro makes me wana use somethng else

Was thinking abt mast but this thing about low body fat?...any experiences with mast bro?

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08 Jan 2013 12:35 #130799 by 00pump

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Well Masteron is effective and a perfect addition to any cycle, however to reap the full effects / benefits of the drug, it is best to have single digit body fat. Then you really a transformation in your body, each week you just get more hard and ripped.

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christo11
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08 Jan 2013 14:09 #130803 by christo11

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Thanks pump for the heads up on masteron

Any thoughts of running tren and winny on the same cycle?
Thanks

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08 Jan 2013 14:18 #130806 by GregB1

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christo11 wrote: Thanks pump for the heads up on masteron

Any thoughts of running tren and winny on the same cycle?
Thanks

How long do you want to run the winny? why not just use it during your bridge.

With hard work and dedication you can achieve anything!

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Pyroclasm
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08 Jan 2013 14:41 #130811 by Pyroclasm

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Pump... Your ideas on running low dose test with Tren? And what about Winny and Tren together?

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christo11
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08 Jan 2013 15:29 #130814 by christo11

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GregB1 wrote:
christo11 wrote: Thanks pump for the heads up on masteron

Any thoughts of running tren and winny on the same cycle?
Thanks

How long do you want to run the winny? why not just use it during your bridge.

5 - 6 weeks max...bro if I use test prop and tren A there won't be a bridge

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08 Jan 2013 16:02 #130816 by GregB1

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True i though to run it for the last 4 weeks of the cycle untill just before pct, but i dont think it a good idea to run winny with tren, Might be too much for the kidneys.

With hard work and dedication you can achieve anything!

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