First Cycle Advice

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10 Jan 2013 17:40 #130981 by Bruno
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Hi All,

After months of reading up as much as possible on AAS, I've decided to take the plunge and do my first cycle.

My stats:
- Age - 28
- Height - 1.79m
- Weight - 94.5kgs
- Bf% - 15%
- Been gyming for past 10 years with occasional breaks when life happens (marriage, varsity and other qualifying exams, work gets hectic, etc) but been on a solid programe for the past 10 months or so (2 month break before that)

Diet:
Up until about 25 years old, I didnt really have to worry too much about what I ate, as long as I was hitting the gym hard, I'd pack on the muscle and stay around the 12% bf mark without much hasle. Once I hit 25, metabolism seemed to have dropped & and bf% started to creep up. My wake up call was early last year when I hit 97kgs at 20% body fat! Hit the gym hard but didnt lose much bf% cos was simply eating too much calories. I then discovered Intermittant Fasting (LeanGains.com) in Oct/Nov 2012 which fitted perfectly with my lifestyle and I have consistently been loosing bf% since then! A typical gym day (5 times a week) for me is approximately 2300 cals:
Coffee/Tea/Water during the 16 hour fasting period
  • 11:30am - 4tblspoons Futurelife Cereal + 125ml Low Fat Milk
  • Noon - Depending on how my work day is going,might hit the office gym for an hour (After Gym - Whey Protein with low fat milk)
  • 1:30pm - Can of tuna (with 2 tblspns light mayo) + 8 Salticrax
  • 5pm - Bannana or some other fruit
  • 6pm - Hit hour of training if didnt go in the afternoon
  • 7:30pm - Final meal of the day: 3 portions Chicken Breasts/Fish/Lamb/Steak + 2 portion of Veg

    I plan to drop BF% to sub 12% before starting my first cycle. Plan to order some clen to help me with this.

    First Cycle:
    Goal is gaining lean muscle mass with out too much effect on bf%. Will be happy with being 95/7kg but at 10% body fat

    Since this is my first cycle, the prospect of using needles freaks me out! But like I've read in a few places, if you wanna use juice you gotta man up! So first cycle will look like this:
    Cycle

  • Week 1 - 12: Test E 500mg/w
  • Week- 4: Bit undecided on the kicker so either (concerned about the sides that DBOL can give, especially glyco and bloated face lol!)
    - Superdrol 20mg/d
    - Anavar 40mg/d
    - Winstrol 40mg/d

    PCT:
    • Week 16 - Clomid 100mg/d for 7 days
    • Week 17 - Nolvadex 20mg/d for 30 days
    • Week 16 to 18 - 500iu HCG every 2nd day for 2 days

    Questions:
    - Please critique my proposed cycle + PCT
    - Is the HCG necessary for this cycle? That questions coming from having to inject every two days!
    - With respect to the Test E, can I take it once a week or split the injections two days apart? 12 injections is easier that 24 but if its much better doing the twice a week then I gotta man up and do it!
    - Then as a kicker, what should I use considering my goals? I want to use the kicker to start seeing immediate improvements - will motivate me nicely for the next injection!
    - Then as far as diet during the cycle goes, how many calories you reckon and what Protein/Carb/Fat ratio?

    When answering and considering the above, please bear in mind that my concerns are side effects, future fertility cos planning to have kids in 2 years time and obviously cost!

    Sorry for the long post but wanted to get all the info down so that I can get the best possible advice :)

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11 Jan 2013 16:17 #131076 by kkx250
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I would use tbol as a kicker and either winnies or anavar for bridge. Hcg is needed in your pct. Enanthate you could inject once a week but it would be better to split up your dosage in two and pin monday and thursday. How your cycle will influence your abillity to have kids I don't know. It probably is risky and maybe you should wait until that duty is done.
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15 Jan 2013 15:04 #131371 by Bruno
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Thanks for the advice. Looking into it further, seems like the link between infertility and AAS is inconclusive. So to rather be safe, gonna wait to start my first cycle after we have the little ones
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16 Jan 2013 07:27 #131415 by teddy
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If you want to pick up lean muscle then it comes down to the diet!Check out dj diet 101,102.
I used test.cyp and dianabol and picked up 7 kg in 10 weeks.
I ate 8 meals a day and tried to eat clean.

I stoped at week 10 because i was getting so hard that each time i pined it was KAK SEER and stoped.I'm happy with my results and the best part is I lost nothing after pct.I"m 1.98 m height and weight is 100kg.

That was a year or two ago.I weight the same now but lost a bit of muscle due to the lack of my diet.It comes to show you that diet is KEY in this game!!!Hope this help in some small way!

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17 Jan 2013 11:03 #131512 by Pyroclasm
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If you are concerned with those sides then Superdrol is definately not the answer! Have you considered T -Bol?

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