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11 Jan 2013 23:57 #131094
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HI All
I would greatly appreciate some advice. I have been browsing the net doing research and seem to get a lot of conflicting information.
I am looking at starting a 10 week cycle and aim at cutting as much fat as possible and building lean hard muscle mass.
I am 1.80 tall and 110 kg at moment- not sure on exact body fat? but have a fair bit.
I plan on using
1:20ml PFP2FIFTY which contains
100mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
75mg/ml Drostanolone Propionate (which I recently found out is also called Masteron)
75mg/ml Trenbolone Acetate
2:Stanoplex 10 (Stanazol/winstrol tabs from Axio
3:Clnebutaplex (Clenbuterol) will stack up and down for 21 days- BREAK FOR 21 DAYS- then slow stack up and down for another 21 days.
PCT: start 14 days after last pin
- Clomid 100mg/d for 7 days
- Nolvadex 20mg/d from day 8 - 37
- 500iu HCG every 2nd day from day 8 - 26 or Ovidrel 250 2x 10mcg for same duration.
I am looking for some advice on how to structure the cycle, and should I stack up and stack down the stanoplex.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I would greatly appreciate some advice. I have been browsing the net doing research and seem to get a lot of conflicting information.
I am looking at starting a 10 week cycle and aim at cutting as much fat as possible and building lean hard muscle mass.
I am 1.80 tall and 110 kg at moment- not sure on exact body fat? but have a fair bit.
I plan on using
1:20ml PFP2FIFTY which contains
100mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
75mg/ml Drostanolone Propionate (which I recently found out is also called Masteron)
75mg/ml Trenbolone Acetate
2:Stanoplex 10 (Stanazol/winstrol tabs from Axio
3:Clnebutaplex (Clenbuterol) will stack up and down for 21 days- BREAK FOR 21 DAYS- then slow stack up and down for another 21 days.
PCT: start 14 days after last pin
- Clomid 100mg/d for 7 days
- Nolvadex 20mg/d from day 8 - 37
- 500iu HCG every 2nd day from day 8 - 26 or Ovidrel 250 2x 10mcg for same duration.
I am looking for some advice on how to structure the cycle, and should I stack up and stack down the stanoplex.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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12 Jan 2013 07:24 - 12 Jan 2013 07:34 #131097
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"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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you should not be using tren during a first cycle!! what is your cycle history and what are your stats? eg
bodfat weight height etc.
Try cut your body fat at as low as possible before cycling because then you can really take advantage of your first cycle and minimize sides
sort out your diet, bring down your body fat and your ready to cycle in 6 months depending on how motivated you are.
bodfat weight height etc.
Try cut your body fat at as low as possible before cycling because then you can really take advantage of your first cycle and minimize sides
sort out your diet, bring down your body fat and your ready to cycle in 6 months depending on how motivated you are.
"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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12 Jan 2013 07:29 #131098
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"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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For a first cycle you should be keeping it as simple as can be and not using these blends that various brands bring out. A test only cycle will yield amazing results while following a structured diet and training program.
"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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12 Jan 2013 07:30 #131099
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u shouldnt be using steroids at the moment,rather just look at your diet to start...
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12 Jan 2013 07:46 #131101
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Thank you for the Advise, it is much appreciated. I am so glad that I came across this forum and am learning loads. There is so much BS advice out there from people that have no idea but think they do.
My diet is good as I am eating in the region of 5 quality meals a day and using some quality whey supplements.
I used a 21 day cycle of just Clenbutaplex towards the end of last year and saw fair results. I have used test. deca , dbol many years back so would not count it as a first cycle. I was also young and stupid and forums like this were not freely available so i took advice from the idiots at the gym that had no idea.
I was looking at accelerating the burning of fat as well as adding lean muscle mass by using the above cycle along with my diet.
I was originally just going to use the winny and clen, but got some of this BS advise mentioned and was told that the PFP2FIFTY blend would compliment it well.
I will cancel my order for the PFP2FIFTY, but what are the thoughts of just using the stanoplex/winny and the clen? shoul i pin something milder with it? Please bear in mind, I’m not looking at bulking at all at this stage and know I should rather try achieve most of my goals with diet only, however I was not blessed with patients.
ONCE AGAIN, GREAT FORUM And thanks for the advice. you guys can save a newbie from disaster.
My diet is good as I am eating in the region of 5 quality meals a day and using some quality whey supplements.
I used a 21 day cycle of just Clenbutaplex towards the end of last year and saw fair results. I have used test. deca , dbol many years back so would not count it as a first cycle. I was also young and stupid and forums like this were not freely available so i took advice from the idiots at the gym that had no idea.
I was looking at accelerating the burning of fat as well as adding lean muscle mass by using the above cycle along with my diet.
I was originally just going to use the winny and clen, but got some of this BS advise mentioned and was told that the PFP2FIFTY blend would compliment it well.
I will cancel my order for the PFP2FIFTY, but what are the thoughts of just using the stanoplex/winny and the clen? shoul i pin something milder with it? Please bear in mind, I’m not looking at bulking at all at this stage and know I should rather try achieve most of my goals with diet only, however I was not blessed with patients.
ONCE AGAIN, GREAT FORUM And thanks for the advice. you guys can save a newbie from disaster.
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12 Jan 2013 08:47 #131104
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Yip too soon for that. Nice mix never the less - the PFP2FIFTY ?? that is.
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12 Jan 2013 10:19 #131108
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To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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Sounds like a rapper..
To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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