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29 Jan 2013 14:57 #132281 by toby30
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hey guys

so im thinking about starting my first cycle within the next month. been doing loads of research and asking people questions and whichever it may be. Now im here just to receive some input from those that are in the know.

the cycle that i am wanting to go on is a var/clen cycle

im not sure whether to add prov and test to this cycle or not as i am planning on stacking the var and clen daily for the duration of the cycle

stats are as follows:

age: 27
weight :89kg
height: 1.75m
Body fat %: 19%

been training solidly for the past year and a half, doing cardio and weights. diet is pretty clean.

wanting to do the cycle in order to gain muscle hardness and lose some more body fat.

so again, not sure whether to take the var and proviron or the var and clen with the proviron

with a pct of course. was thinking of nolva and clomid as pct

any input will be greatly appreciated...

shot guys!!! B)

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29 Jan 2013 15:10 #132282 by mike123
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Er boet if your B/F % is 19 then your diet needs work ...try the keto diet and dont cycle until u are sure u are loosing fat then Anavar and clen u can add proviron as well but not a must...shot

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29 Jan 2013 15:18 #132283 by Bandit
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I would definitely add test to any cycle...
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29 Jan 2013 15:22 #132284 by mike123
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Yep ...are u scared of needles dude ?

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29 Jan 2013 15:44 #132290 by toby30
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to be honest i am somewhat scared of needles...

as for the body fat, its at 19% and been stagnant there for the past 4 months now.

so if i understand correctly,

anavar and clen along with a test cylce as well

proviron is not a must so that wont be needed

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29 Jan 2013 15:55 - 29 Jan 2013 15:57 #132292 by mike123
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yep... proviron helps u to use all the test so is a good addition but not a must ...use test cyp as with the beginners bulk but your diet must be a cutting diet ...keto.. otherwise u will just blow up...frontload with Anavar instead of Dbol ....and injects are piss a pin prick and thats about it as long as u know were and how to inject....but I say again Diet..
so that u are loosing fat before u cycle and u should be below 15 % then cycle...The clen will help with fatloss but wont do much if u are not dieting properly ..and cardio...
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29 Jan 2013 15:58 #132293 by toby30
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cool. shot...im not in a rush for it in any way so if you guys think it best that i drop more body fat then i shall do the cycle there after

thanks guys
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29 Jan 2013 16:03 #132294 by mike123
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Read the diet stickies and google Keto / Atkins diet

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29 Jan 2013 17:43 #132303 by Oupa
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Be patient , work hard, drop to around 12-15% bodyfat. Mike s advice to you is spot on.
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