Tren Acetate and Test Prop Cycle Help

Hello everyone,

This is my first post on here. I wish I would have found this site some months ago, but I'm glad to have found it now. Please excuse my post if anything I ask is basic. I just read through as much of this site as I could before posting so as to keep my points relevant.

Current stats: 5'6, 193lbs, ~13%BF, Training for 8+ years, 28 years old, approximate calorie burn 4700/day, approximate calorie consumption 4500-5000/day (40% CHO/30% PRO/ 30% FAT)

I started my current cycle 10 weeks ago. My plan was the following:
Weeks 1-16: Tren Ace. 187.5mg/week + Test Prop. 375mg/week pinned MWF (1/2cc Tren and 1cc Test. DHEA supplementation at 100-200mg/day.

I did my research elsewhere (since I hadn't found this site) and was mostly under the guidance of a friend that had competed in bodybuilding and has about 12+years experience using gear.

Week 1-3: as stated above (Tren Ace 187.5mg/wk + Test Prop 375mg/wk)
Week 4: same but added in Anastrozole at 1mg MWF (original plan was to take it at 0.5mg/day, but my distributor could only get 1mg pills)
Week 5-8: Tren 187.5mg/wk + Test 375mg/wk + Anaztrozole 1mg/MWF + DHEA 100mg/day. Somewhere during this time I noticed increased body acne and somewhat noticed a decreased in my sex drive. I could still have sex, but it wasn't the ONLY thing on my mind and I wasn't trying to hump everything in sight. During week 8 I had problems "getting it up" and when I did "get it up" I couldn't "keep it up." Morning wood diminished as well. Wasn't horny and just didn't feel like having sex. My workouts still stayed productive, but I did notice that DOMS lasted longer and was more intense. My training program stayed the same throughout this time.

Week 9: Everything the same, except I eliminated the anastrozole.
I did some more research (my friend wasn't really able to answer my questions). I have William Llewellyn's ANABOLICS, 10th edition. My decision to eliminate the anastrozole was based in part on the section in this book on libido/sexual dysfunction: "Studies show that estrogen plays an important role in libido and sexual function in men. Therefore the use of non-aromatizable steroids or aromatase-inhibiting drugs sometimes also causes interference." Immediately I thought, Tren Acetate (non-aromatizing) and the Anastrozole (aromataste inhibiting). Upon removal of it (about a couple of days), I started getting sensation back. I COULD get erections, just not as full. I SLOWLY started getting back my sex drive. But at MOST it was about a 10% increase.

Week 10: My current week. I read on Tren's side effects including elevated prolactin levels which causes loss of libido and dysfunction as well. Ran this information around to my friend and he suggested removing the tren completely, and increasing the test prop from 1cc to 1.25cc. So I'm currently doing: 468.75mg Test Prop MWF, DHEA 300mg/day. Still not 100% fully erect when aroused, and sex drive is there but not 100% as normal.

My plans are (depending on what is suggested): Finish with Test Prop at 468.75mg/wk until Week 12 then commence on PCT. I just read on the PCT protocols here. They are VERY different than what I have done before. Here's what I had planned (this is what I did before after I ran Deca and Test Prop as suggested by my friend:

HCG 1cc/day (it was 10,000IUs dissolved in 20ml of bacteriostatic water)
Tribulus taken at about 2500mg/day
DHEA 300mg/day
A-HD 1 tablet per day
Non-steroidal supplement


Thank you for taking the time to read this. Any feedback, suggestions, etc. are greatly appreciated. I wish I had found this board much sooner. I am worried about the side effects and if anyone had any experience with this, please shed some light on how to deal with the underlying cause of the ED as well as any immediate solutions.

Thank you all, once again.

Dont know how many cycles u have done but Tren is for the very experianced ...IMO your SD is partally from the bad PCT protocol in the past ...but lets see if the Boffins / experianced have any comments / advice

Thank you for your reply.

My previous cycles have been the following:
1. Anavar only (8 weeks)
2. Tren Acetate 8 weeks and Dbol added in for the remaining 8 weeks
3. Test Prop 8 weeks and Deca added in for another 8 weeks

I spent more time trying to educate myself after the last one, and upon my supplier and friend's suggestion embarked on the cycle I currently am on. If I may ask, would performing the proper PCT this time around help with the SD?

And is there a particular PCT you would recommend?

Thank you for your response.

Pct no 3 on the sight or at least no 2 should sort u out ...U jumped on the Tren wagon very early even Deca should be used only after a few basic cycles test cyp / e...Dbol 4 weeks only...Liver ?? Test prop and Deca ? Is your diet good ? whats your age ?

Thank you.

Yes. Now I realize that I really hadn't done the correct homework. Everything I did was taught by a friend who I trust. Wish I could go back and spend more time myself digging in.

I am 28 years old. My diet is under control by me. Better now than before. I keep my carbs high, protein high, and fat moderate. Somewhat of a 40/30/30.

The dbol I was told to use as a "test spiker" at 10-20mg/day. I realize NOW, that my first cycle SHOULD have been testosterone.

yep u dont need SD at 28 I am a lot older and fully funtional ...Dbol is a frontload for 4 weeks at 30 to 50 mg P/D as the test takes about that long to kick in ...

Dj and Inja are on line so lets see if they have advice...

I'm amazed how someone who has 12 years of experience using steroids and competing can not know to advise using dostinex/cabaser for prolactin induced sexual dysfunction.

If you had been taking cabaser and were running your AI at a more reasonable dose you would have been fine all along bud. With pharm grade arimidex half a tab 2x a week up to maybe 3 times a week would be enough.

When your estrogen drops too low your libido suffers.

I know. My only guess is that he never had any problems and was one of those few that responded well on anything he did regardless of what was in the cycle. Kind of sucks for me because I think I have to find out the hard way.

A few things:
1. Am I correct in my assumption that I suffered from prolactin induced sexual dysfunction? If so...is the course of action I have taken (removal first of the AI then removal of TREN and concurrent increase of the TEST PROP) the appropriate one to restore balance to my prolactin levels and deal with the sexual dysfunction?

2. I am able to get erections now...still not full salute. I am also "more interested" in sex again. Is it safe to assume that some type of balance is being restored?

3. Since I have dropped out the Tren Acetate, am I correct in assuming that there is no point in adding in cabaser NOW to minimize the side effects that are already taking effect?

Once again, I appreciate the feedback and the responses.

It sounds like it was a combo of your estrogen being too low and the prolactin, although your tren dose was quite low, so the main cause was probably your estrogen dropping too low. Elevated prolactin causes week erections as well as killing libido.

You'll be fine in no time. If it is from prolactin then it can take a while as prolactin tends to stay in the system for a while.

If you get cabaser then you can get back on the tren. Cabaser is also a big libido booster, but no point getting it now if you are done with the tren. Just wait it out.

You'll be fine in no time. If it is from prolactin then it can take a while as prolactin tends to stay in the system for a while.



Are we talking days or weeks MA ?

mike123 wrote: Are we talking days or weeks MA ?

Should see improvements within a week considering the test dose and the low tren dose used. The problems with prolactin usually come post cycle when it can keep test production suppressed for months in bad cases but that's not the norm.

Muscleaddict wrote:

mike123 wrote: Are we talking days or weeks MA ?

Should see improvements within a week considering the test dose and the low tren dose used. The problems with prolactin usually come post cycle when it can keep test production suppressed for months in bad cases but that's not the norm.

Thanks ...just coming of the Deca so hoping I dont have the same sh*t...still have one more test shot
but already the Libido is dropping slightly....

I definitely don't have the same amount of experience with gear as lots of people (you both included) do. But at least I'm glad to say that in the hours I've spent in the last few days researching I think I've learned much more (still not enough...but it's a start).

A few other things:
1. I did a cycle of tren and dbol before. Dbol towards the end. During that cycle I never experienced any ED problems. Forgive my ignorance, but would it be an option to ADD in dbol NOW (while I'm on test prop) with the purpose of dealing with the SD? This was suggested to me by my friend and he said it would be fine to add in DBol now.

2. Since I am able to get erections and my drive is coming back (slowly), would the use of generic viagra be "okay" to deal with the issue now? I'm assuming that since my sex drive is increasing, and there is blood flow down there, the use of generic viagra can help with addressing the performance issue for now. Note that I've NEVER used viagra or anything like it before.

Once again, thank you for your responses.

mike123:

Is your planned PCT the ones you suggested for me? Also, in the past have you ran those PCTs with your other cycles?

Ok MA has a lot more experiance than me ....so if he disagrees I am sure he will jump in..
I think u need to finish your cycle and then use PCT no3 at the right time as per the articles sect on the sight leave the Dbol.. after PCT try ZMA and Tribulis as a Libido booster .

Viagra is for those that have a desire but cannot get a erection..U seem to have a desire problem ..leave the viagra do the above and give it some time and u should get back to normal ....dont overthink the problem ..that in itself can become a problem
shot bru

testosterton wrote: I definitely don't have the same amount of experience with gear as lots of people (you both included) do. But at least I'm glad to say that in the hours I've spent in the last few days researching I think I've learned much more (still not enough...but it's a start).

A few other things:
1. I did a cycle of tren and dbol before. Dbol towards the end. During that cycle I never experienced any ED problems. Forgive my ignorance, but would it be an option to ADD in dbol NOW (while I'm on test prop) with the purpose of dealing with the SD? This was suggested to me by my friend and he said it would be fine to add in DBol now.

2. Since I am able to get erections and my drive is coming back (slowly), would the use of generic viagra be "okay" to deal with the issue now? I'm assuming that since my sex drive is increasing, and there is blood flow down there, the use of generic viagra can help with addressing the performance issue for now. Note that I've NEVER used viagra or anything like it before.

Once again, thank you for your responses.

Dbol is not going to do anything to adress the issue of SD. Ive briefly clanced through this thread but as MA mentioned the addition of Cabaser will likely fix up ur ed problems, in addition to increasing your libido. At this stage, just keep everything as simple as possible and dont add in more AAS compounds as its only going to prolong ypur recovery and possible exacerbate your current problems.

Just wanted to follow up with everyone. I TRULY appreciate how helpful you all have been.

I stopped using the tren and kept the test prop. I am almost coming to the conclusion of this cycle.

My ED problems are gone as of now. They got better roughly within 5 days of the time when it was at it's worst. I've been reading up on as much information as possible since then. I've maintained the test prop until I'm completely done.

I will be posting for some help on the post cycle as I'll be finishing up within less than three weeks.

Again...I canNOT stress how grateful I am for all the help that was given and all the advice.