My 10 week cycle of deca dianabol and sust250

Hi guys.

for those who do not no, i have been training almost four years natty and now 21 with very slow gains. my stats are very good, my physique is good (solid frame) and now its time to start something ive always wanted to. i think its well deserved.

My goal is a mass fitness physique, shredded in the end.
I am starting my first cycle using dianablo, sustanan 250 and deca.

Week1 susstanon 250 (500)- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week2 " "- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week3 " "- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week4 " "- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week5 " "- Deca 400
Week6 " "- Deca 400
Week7 " "- Deca 400
Week8 " "- just sust


Week 9 (nothing)
Week 10 PCT- HCG (2inj. 2000iu spaced 5 days) Clomid/ Nolvaldex
Week 11 cont. -Clomid/ Nolvaldex
Week 12 cont. -Clomid/ Nolvaldex
Week 13 cont. -Clomid/ Nolvaldex - THE END!!!

I will inject 2 HCG 500iu at week during all the cycle to
accelerate the recovery!
And the adition of Nolvaldex during the cycle prevent water and fat
retention.


Your honest opinion and changes would be most appreciated.
Look forward to hearing from you guys with experience on this kind of cycle

PCT 54 days after last Deca shot...u can do another shot of sust week 9 and then 30days to PCT...go read the PCT sect in the articles sect u dont seem to have the correct seqaunce...Guys are going to tell u to do the Deca longer but I dont agree u will see gains in 7 weeks and less sides..

actually Sust is 54 days as well ?????

No, people will tel him to not do deca for a first cycle- period. Also nolva as a ai during a deca cycle? No

And pct 2 wont cut it.

You shouldn't be doing Deca for your first cycle... You'll have great results off just test and dbol.

Program beat me 2 it...

Whooops first cycle ? yep go do some more reading ...Dbol and cyp PCT no 2 is all u need my pal...dont be in a rush to jump onto heavy stuff u can get the same results from plain test cyp and diet...

So Nolva prevents fat retention? :lol:

do at least 12 week test only cycle

then 2nd cycle do deca/EQ for 16 weeks with more test

1st one do enan, and 2nd cyp or switch around - so you can see how they work for you

chieppa wrote: Hi guys.

for those who do not no, i have been training almost four years natty and now 21 with very slow gains. my stats are very good, my physique is good (solid frame) and now its time to start something ive always wanted to. i think its well deserved.

My goal is a mass fitness physique, shredded in the end.
I am starting my first cycle using dianablo, sustanan 250 and deca.

Week1 susstanon 250 (500)- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week2 " "- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week3 " "- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week4 " "- Deca 400- Dianabol
Week5 " "- Deca 400
Week6 " "- Deca 400
Week7 " "- Deca 400
Week8 " "- just sust


Week 9 (nothing)
Week 10 PCT- HCG (2inj. 2000iu spaced 5 days) Clomid/ Nolvaldex
Week 11 cont. -Clomid/ Nolvaldex
Week 12 cont. -Clomid/ Nolvaldex
Week 13 cont. -Clomid/ Nolvaldex - THE END!!!

I will inject 2 HCG 500iu at week during all the cycle to
accelerate the recovery!
And the adition of Nolvaldex during the cycle prevent water and fat
retention.


Your honest opinion and changes would be most appreciated.
Look forward to hearing from you guys with experience on this kind of cycle

This doesn't make sense at all...

The anabolic steroid knowledge is strong with this one. 7 weeks deca??? pct starts 3 weeks after deca shot??? dude seriously. If you want to run deca for such a short period why not use npp? and id advise you using T prop instead of Sust if you go the npp route.

1-9 T prop 450mg
1-8 npp 300/450mg

no need for dbol.

What are your stats? age, height, bf, weight ?

Shit. just saw its your first cycle. Do the bigginers bulk cycle on the site. Absultely no need for deca. www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

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crawler wrote: do at least 12 week test only cycle

then 2nd cycle do deca/EQ for 16 weeks with more test

1st one do enan, and 2nd cyp or switch around - so you can see how they work for you

Is this what you'd like to do or your expert opinion? :huh:

crawler wrote: do at least 12 week test only cycle

then 2nd cycle do deca/EQ for 16 weeks with more test

1st one do enan, and 2nd cyp or switch around - so you can see how they work for you

Completely disagree with you. You can do a 10 week Test cycle as a first cycle you dont HAVE to do "atleast 12 weeks" and advising someone to introduce 2 new injectables to a second cycle is just plain overboard even for someone whose looking to compete.

NEE :pinch:

Thank you all for your opinion. I will use this information as a guildline only but im still convinced i will be stacking with deca although i will be using about 350mg of deca/ week (best gain/side effect ratio)

I might suggest that i do the sustanon and dianabol for 12 weeks and use the deca with winstrol as my second cycle

What will you do when your nipples start to lactate chieppa?

do research... do it right:

I just vom'd in my mouth a little bit. :sick:

ja nee kyk... that's why you need to inform yourself about what you are doing...

manery wrote:

crawler wrote: do at least 12 week test only cycle

then 2nd cycle do deca/EQ for 16 weeks with more test

1st one do enan, and 2nd cyp or switch around - so you can see how they work for you

Completely disagree with you. You can do a 10 week Test cycle as a first cycle you dont HAVE to do "atleast 12 weeks" and advising someone to introduce 2 new injectables to a second cycle is just plain overboard even for someone whose looking to compete.

Well I see better results on 12 weeks of test

Then for the different in injectables, is to find out whats works better for you ie cyp or enan etc

so 1st 12 week cyp
then 2nd 12 week enan

someone i know is 22 now and told me he did this exact same cycle with deca and got good results without the side affects you are all complaining about. Don't know if I should read more or go with the opinions ive received. Ive researched and i must say i am on the wary side...

Well maybe, just possibly, some people get sides and others don't, great game of roulette you probably don't want to play on your first cycle.

I always cringe when someone says deca and sust250 in the same sentence. 90% of the time they don't know what the hell they doing. I wish that old saying 'deca&sust' would be gone. Heard another guy the other day say he doesn't want to do super test he wants to do sustaplex coz super test isn't sust....Tried to explain to him they both a cocktail of different tests...went straight over his head. Anyway story over.

Just do the beginner sample cycle. www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

chieppa wrote: someone i know is 22 now and told me he did this exact same cycle with deca

This onetime at band-camp........... :pinch:

Listen to what people are telling you !! No Deca on fist CYCLE :ohmy: