Beginer cycle prop and dbol

So my first cycle has started and its good so far except for the buttocks swelling. haven't been able to legs yet we'll get there though cos im positive the comfortableness will subside within a few more days.

I want to incorporate different testosterone over my 11-12 week first course.

First week - 400mg of testosterone propenate injected every second day with 30mg of dinabol each day.
-already starting to see a bit of size, claims made by my girl friend and friend I see about twice a week who's also a gym rat. I notice quite a bit of water retention alrready- that could be the size im seeing...fealt invincible last night at gym :evil:

Second week- 500mg of testosterone propenate injected every second day with 30mg of dianabol each day (increased prop by 1.25ml each second day of the week)

for the rest of the course i want to start adding in sustanon of maybe ethanate of cyp. What do you guys recommend apposed to keep using the propenate all the way through. Could i combine prop with sustanon and when should i do this?

Eating like a monster so this works well.
diet is the following at the moment:
on week days:
meal 1:

2 whole eggs, 4 egg whites, 50g of fat cheese
35g oil oil
some veggies

meal 2:

tuna cane
80g salad
some veggies

meal 3:

200-250g chicken brest, 50g carbs from basmati rice
50g olive oil

Post workout:
2 scoops of whey
30g of nuts or almonds

meal 4:

M.A.S.S Addiction SSN bulk shake 100g carbs, 40 grams protein

meal 6:

200g skim cheese
50g olive oil

Sorry to be the wet blanket, but that's not eating like a monster.

chieppa wrote: Eating like a monster so this works well.
diet is the following at the moment:
on week days:
meal 1:

2 whole eggs, 4 egg whites, 50g of fat cheese
35g oil oil
some veggies

meal 2:

tuna cane
80g salad
some veggies

meal 3:

200-250g chicken brest, 50g carbs from basmati rice
50g olive oil

Post workout:
2 scoops of whey
30g of nuts or almonds

meal 4:

M.A.S.S Addiction SSN bulk shake 100g carbs, 40 grams protein

meal 6:

200g skim cheese
50g olive oil

I have to agree, I eat more then that when I diet down, Go through the dieting stickies, as for the testosterone, I advise you to stick to test prop, a nice 8 week cycle, increase test prop to 2ml every second day, and EAT more

Good luck

Why not just stick with the same ester throughout? I don't get why guys want to overcomplicate their first cycle.

Keep it simple, get your diet sorted and you will have good gains.

Regarding increasing prop dose, surely you mean by 0.25ml every second day? If not, that's a hell of a lot of test.

I'm also assuming your dose is 400mg - 500mg per week, and not every second day.

Im 165cm in height and my body type is endomorph. Do you really think i need to be eating as much as you guys? ill post pictures and you'll be able to see what i like and advise according.

I want to take around 500mg per week of propenate and my reason for wanting to change to a different ester is because i dont enjoy pinning EOD.

Would you run a first cycle for 10, 12 or 15 weeks? you recommendations please

I'm sure many guys advised you to do the beginers bulking cycle, of cyp and dbol... Once a week injections, easy game, u should of dome that in my opinion, but its not too late to move over, but remember sus has various short esters aswell, and to keep blood levels stable, and get the most out of the compound, eod - e3d injections are still needed... IF you can get enanthate or cyp. Will make your first cycle a lot more convenient and keep the prop for a rainy day ... Aim for 10 weeks, no use buying for 15 weeks if u get nasty sides and want to stop... Hit 10 weeks, and reassess gains and how u feeling closer to the time if u thinking of extending...

Keep it simple, no need to over complicate like you are now

PoisonedPulse wrote: I have to agree, I eat more then that when I diet down, Go through the dieting stickies, as for the testosterone, I advise you to stick to test prop, a nice 8 week cycle, increase test prop to 2ml every second day, and EAT more

Good luck

Was literally busy writing the same thing then saw this ha ha

Chieppa I posted what cycle you must do in your first thread ages ago. Now you are complaining about EOD injections and that's why there is the beginner bulk cycle.

Post pics so we can see this 1.65 Monster

if i find the instructions to upload ill do it as soon as i can

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/11-gene...ictures-on-the-forum

Natural training from last.. let me know what you guys think

learn to take pics with out naked old guys in the back ground. lean and have a good basis to work on.

You have a nice looking face.

\Dj haha , you suppose to ignore the old men in the background and concentrate on what i need improving on. Thanks for the positive feedback man. will only be working hard on my physique this year, especially with the awesome information ive discovered on this forum.

Were you not taller a few weeks ago?

DJ wrote: learn to take pics with out naked old guys in the back ground. lean and have a good basis to work on.

Whaha, didnt even notice the old men :lol: . But yes good basis

PS* hope you didnt forget about leg days :pinch: