First Cycle Advice - Test Ester chain lengths

Hi Guys,

Apologies for posting ANOTHER first cycle advice thread!

I am currently researching and planning my first "proper" cycle and would like some advice.

Age: 25.5
Height: ~5.9
Weight: 84kg
Training Duration: 2.5yrs
My goals are only to build lean mass and i would like it to be as tame a cycle as possible.

My questions:
- From all the reading I have done, it is clear that the oral only route is not the way to go, and that the ultimate beginner cycle is test only. So, in terms of the different test ester options, what is best? I am not too worried about the injection frequency, but would like to keep the cycle duration to a minimum.

- As far as stacking the Test, what are decent options for me? I like the idea of the leaner orals, (Anavar, Primo, etc)

Thanks in advance for any info...

Just to add - I have been looking at the Beginner Bulking Sample Cycle, but would like to stay away from the DBol and maybe use something more along the lines of Anavar?

How do these types of drugs work when stacked together?

whats your body fat % like ?

Thanks for the response - should have added that originally...

According to the VA machines, its around 16%.

ok then u need to get that down to 12% or less = diet ...then if u have the budget anavar and cyp... t/bol is also a option ....Personally I would do 30 to 40 mg Dbol with a lean diet and then bridge with anavar or winny can add prov as well...Dbol gives a nice kick start ...use for the first 3 to4 weeks and then the cyp will have kicked . Just dont cycle at 16 % u will look like u are bloated....Diet and cardio first ....shot boet

If you get your diet spot on you cycle from 16% and lose that fat while you put on lean muscle. Be sure to have Arimidex on hand as the extra fat means you have many more Aromatase enzymes in your body.

ADD: Agree 100% with Mike that if your BF is high and you only aim for muscle then you are just gonna look fatter. So you MUST have the weight loss goal at the moment but what I am saying is that it okay to also add the muscle and cycle.

Sorry for not responding guys, but your responses hit home and I decided to rather diet first.

The last couple months since my post have been very busy finishing up my thesis and as such my gym time and diet has taken a hit. For the next month, now that I am free again, I am going to focus on getting my BF down and prep for a new cycle beginning of next year.

I am now down to 80kg, but not sure of my BF as I have lost some muscle too.

I'm keen on using a fat burner now with diet and cardio over the next month to try lose the fat. Can anyone suggest a suitable fat burner? I like the sound of FFF...

Any advice will be appreciated!

Good decision to drop BF before cycle. My 2c would be to just use Test C for your first cycle and see how your body reacts. You can then look at adding additional compounds from your second cycle onwards if you so wish.

Thanks FatBoy. One thing I am worried about is that I don't think I have enough lean muscle under the fat, so surely with a hardcore diet and fat burner I might just end up looking scrawny?

Or is that the right way to go - cut (if you can call it that) first without any anabolics and then start a cycle in January?

The less bodyfat the better your results will be. Muscle can be build, and it takes patience if you do it properly.

I've just placed an order for some FFF and will be starting the new routine on Monday.

Should i be using Creatine during the FFF? And which is best? I have a whole lot of HCL lying around, but havent really felt much from it in the past. HCL vs Mono??