The boys not shrinking on test cyp

Pyroclasm wrote: That's the thing Oupa- everyone responds differently to test. Some people shut down completely while a small minority of people won't shut down at all.

Sorry bud, there is not one person on the planet who's hpta will not shut down at all when taking testosterone at even mild bodybuilder dose. Everyone responds differently but that is not true.

I get a discount as i purchase for my friends as well and we then share out the dosh. Not only is this stuff good for your giant but long term and consistent use is good for kidneys, obviously sexual health, sperm count, blood flow, anti aging. She has a variety and not only OTO. I recommend checking it out and if you suffer loss on interest while on pct or after pct this will give you the mother of kickstarts.

FIllet wrote: Correct Ian but i have only seen the Chao Jimengnan at the sex shops for almost R200 for 4 tabs. I pay R300 for 40 tabs. That is the big difference.

So at 2 tabs every 3 days your 40 tabs would last 60 days? So you would rather spend R300 on that with no scientific proof that it is helping besides looking at your balls than spend less money for a 2 month supply of HCG which is proven to work?

I don't understand that. :lol:

Not all Mr MA, i have my HCG and all other ancillaries and will use them for sure. My story here was just to find out if any of those ingredients may have helped me to hang low?

FIllet wrote: Not all Mr MA, i have my HCG and all other ancillaries and will use them for sure. My story here was just to find out if any of those ingredients may have helped me to hang low?

It's very possible that it is helping I reckon and this is could be a good natural product for post cycle help with libido. I'm just hoping guys aren't getting the wrong idea. That Epimedium sagittatum is horny goat weed which is a very popular libido booster. This is pretty interesting so I will do a bit of research on the other ingredients.

Your feedback MA would much appreciated. Thanks

Muscleaddict wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: That's the thing Oupa- everyone responds differently to test. Some people shut down completely while a small minority of people won't shut down at all.

Sorry bud, there is not one person on the planet who's hpta will not shut down at all when taking testosterone at even mild bodybuilder dose. Everyone responds differently but that is not true.

Hahaha MA I KNEW you were gonna call me on that hand! :lol: The point I am trying to get across here is that there is not enough shut down to warrant the use of HCG. Agree?

For a basic test cycle I would only use HCG with PCT. I understand using deur in more complex cycles but I personally wouldn't stray from Doctorias pct on a bigginer bulking cycle.

Pyroclasm wrote: Hahaha MA I KNEW you were gonna call me on that hand! :lol: The point I am trying to get across here is that there is not enough shut down to warrant the use of HCG. Agree?

Haha, for sure. On a 10 week test cycle it's not completely necessary but I would still run a low dose of HCG. It's hard to tell just from staring at your balls how shut down you are though. Especially when they are as big as mine :lol:

lol! I know mine are shutdown when I can only find five of them. lol

Ian79 wrote: I personally wouldn't stray from Doctorias pct on a bigginer bulking cycle.

Over kill. But fair enough, it is your opinion.

CHAPEL wrote:

Ian79 wrote: I personally wouldn't stray from Doctorias pct on a bigginer bulking cycle.

Over kill. But fair enough, it is your opinion.

Sorry if that came out wronge, by no means was I disagreeing with MA just saying that I'd just stick to a normal Pct on a test cycle and not run it deur in cycle.

CHAPEL wrote:

Ian79 wrote: I personally wouldn't stray from Doctorias pct on a bigginer bulking cycle.

Over kill. But fair enough, it is your opinion.

I don't think he means the' Doctari Protocol, I think he means any PCT protocol designed by Doctari.

FIllet wrote: Pics as promised for easy purchase, the ladies english is not to hot.
The first one is dosed at 1-2 tablets every 3 days, chew them and rinse them down with hot water

Also known as potala palace

The second one is dosed at one capsule, consisting of one capsule and one pill - one every eight days.

Dont underestimate these chinese mothers, they will kick your @ss.

I just bought these. I will give feedback on how it worked for me. The lady reckoned you don't need both but i took both just to check. I'm now just nervous that my dude will never go down after taking both.

She did say the one that you take once a week is best btw.

You just got some good stuff dude, I also take both. The OTO makes your eyes red for a short while and your nose will get stuffy, the other will make you slightly irritable for an hour. OTO last three days and the other is one every 8 days, its a yellow capsule and black tablet like ball inside ye?

FIllet wrote: You just got some good stuff dude, I also take both. The OTO makes your eyes red for a short while and your nose will get stuffy, the other will make you slightly irritable for an hour. OTO last three days and the other is one every 8 days, its a yellow capsule and black tablet like ball inside ye?

Exactly like you described it.