Tren A & Test Prop Kick start

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13 May 2013 21:56 #138349 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Hi everyone. This is my first thread on this forum. Thanks to Admin & Netro for making me feel part of the brotherhood here.
Anyways, I would like to know what you think of a tren ace & test prop stack for a "boost" to my main cycle?
This is my first tren cycle but overall 5th cycle.
My cycle plan is as follows:
Week 1 - 10 Tren E 200mg/ week; Test E 325mg/ week
Week 1 - 4 Tren A 300mg/ week; Test Prop 300mg/ week
Week 6 - 12 Anavar 60mg ED

PCT: Doctari's PCT 3

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Age: 28
Height: 1,86m
Weight: 113kg
BF %: 15
Routine: 5 days a week heavy weight training

Will try and upload before/ after pics for this specific cycle.
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14 May 2013 09:05 #138378 by Snitch
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Welcome to the forum bud :)

Personally I would up the test E a bit,325mg is a little on the lower side, bump it up to 500mg.

The prop is good to go, will get some test in your system fast until your Test E kicks in.

Anavar dose is fine :) But id maybe rather keep the anavar for your bridging period?? What you going to use during bridge if you run the var now?

The tren dose you have is ok, could push the 200mg up to 300mg,id keep it there :)

For the front loading of tren ace, that's a lot of tren a week (500-600mg)!! It will basically work the same as the prop over the test E, id keep the tren ace at 200mg a week and then your tren E at 300mg a week, swop the two around, use the higher dose for the majority of your cycle.

PCT 3 is perfect for this cycle :)
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14 May 2013 09:12 - 14 May 2013 09:15 #138382 by VonD
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tren e takes a while to kick in why not do test prop an tren ace.
tren ace is far better for me than tren e.also if sides flair up tren ace is out of your system faster.
Effects from tren ace also come on quicker.
something like this

1-8 test prop @200mg eod
1-8 tren ace @100-150mg eod
1-10 proviron @ 40-60mg(optional)
2-10 anavar @ 60mg

Pct 3

Some cabaser on hand for prolactin sides and some adex/letro for estrogen sides.
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14 May 2013 10:53 #138396 by MCJ
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VonD wrote: tren e takes a while to kick in why not do test prop an tren ace.
tren ace is far better for me than tren e.also if sides flair up tren ace is out of your system faster.
Effects from tren ace also come on quicker.
something like this

1-8 test prop @200mg eod
1-8 tren ace @100-150mg eod
1-10 proviron @ 40-60mg(optional)
2-10 anavar @ 60mg

Pct 3

Some cabaser on hand for prolactin sides and some adex/letro for estrogen sides.


Have to agree with the Von. Tren Ace is better than the Enanthate when u consider what he mentioned. Also just a thought.....for the price of Anavar and proviron u could may as well use Masteron instead. That's what I do and u won't be disappointed with masteron at all.

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14 May 2013 12:27 #138410 by Ball
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Ive actually heard alot of good things about low dose test on a tren cycle.
Keeps sides somewhat under control from what ive read and heard

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15 May 2013 18:49 #138716 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Hi Snitch

I actually want to run the Test at that dose as a secondary and the Tren as a primary. Will rather increase the Tren then as suggested.
At what week would you suggest to start the Anavar then?

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15 May 2013 18:59 #138717 by MCJ
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Just remember your test dosage should ideally be higher than compounds like tren and deca

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15 May 2013 19:01 #138718 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Hi VonD

Thanks for the info. I actually already have both Tren E and Tren A on hand.
Also, Cabaser and Letro is on hand as well. Thanks for the heads up there.

Great avatar!

@MCJ
I have Anavar on hand already. Read good things about Masteron, will give it a try with my next cycle.

@Ball
That was my thought as well when I considered the Tren sides.
Do you have any personal experience with a lower Test : Tren cycle?

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15 May 2013 19:04 #138719 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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MCJ

Would you suggest to up the Test E or maybe throw in extra Test Prop during main cycle?

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15 May 2013 19:12 #138721 by MCJ
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Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!! wrote: MCJ

Would you suggest to up the Test E or maybe throw in extra Test Prop during main cycle?


You can do either one bro. Test is test its just the esters that differ. Prop is nice for a kickstart and after week 4-5 the Test E should be working nicely as well. If u can afford the extra prop that's fine, if not just increase your test E dosage. Watch the estrogen feedback though but I see u have letro so all good.

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15 May 2013 19:25 #138725 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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MCJ wrote:

Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!! wrote: MCJ

Would you suggest to up the Test E or maybe throw in extra Test Prop during main cycle?


You can do either one bro. Test is test its just the esters that differ. Prop is nice for a kickstart and after week 4-5 the Test E should be working nicely as well. If u can afford the extra prop that's fine, if not just increase your test E dosage. Watch the estrogen feedback though but I see u have letro so all good.


I will get some Test Prop then.
Any suggestion to the Anavar start week maybe?
Thanks for the feedback bud.

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15 May 2013 19:36 - 15 May 2013 19:40 #138728 by MCJ
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Have never used anavar myself bro. Don't like giving advice etc on things I haven't used personally. In other words, I'm not so clued up on Anavar lol. I rather use Masteron :lol:

I'm sure VonD or Snitch will be able to help u out there, if not maybe one of the many moderators

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15 May 2013 19:40 #138732 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Hi Pyro

It sounds like you have had a few experiences with anavar.
Any suggestions from your side?

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15 May 2013 19:56 - 15 May 2013 20:13 #138737 by Pyroclasm
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Jy soek skoor MCJ!

@Zyzz: Sorry for the bitching in your thread bro and welcome to the forum! VonD was right when he said you should much rather stick with Tren Ace for your first Tren cycle. This is so you can see how your body handles the Tren. Some people really don't handle Tren well and trust me when I tell you you go through hell and back until the Tren is out of your system. One of our mods on this forum used Tren E and he said it is a mistake he will NEVER make again. I also feel that you don't need so much Tren for a first time you could get away with a much lighter dose for the same price. My advice: Keep the Tren E for your next cycle. I really like the idea of short esters to kick in quickly while you wait for the longer esters to kick in, but there are more important things coming in to play here.

But hey I haven't used Tren myself yet so I am probably completely wrong! (Edit: He started it!)
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15 May 2013 21:56 #138778 by Snitch
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@ zyzz

You can run the anavar from week 6 through to week 14 bro..8weeks is the max i would recommend for anavar,well its aso dose dependent,so 40-60mg a day would be ok for 8 weeks :)

look,your last test E shot(being the longest esther in your cycle if tren ace is used) is in week 10 right, so with the half life of the test E you need to wait approx 30 days bedore running PCT, so the anavar week 10-14 is perfec for that bridge period up until you start PCT,so you will have 4 weeks anavar onc cycle and then 4 weeks by itself then time for PCT :) proviron can also be added with the anavar ;) helps harden up a lil more as well..

Make sure to get some milk thistle as well when running the var :)
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16 May 2013 18:12 #138896 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Snitch wrote: @ zyzz

You can run the anavar from week 6 through to week 14 bro..8weeks is the max i would recommend for anavar,well its aso dose dependent,so 40-60mg a day would be ok for 8 weeks :)

look,your last test E shot(being the longest esther in your cycle if tren ace is used) is in week 10 right, so with the half life of the test E you need to wait approx 30 days bedore running PCT, so the anavar week 10-14 is perfec for that bridge period up until you start PCT,so you will have 4 weeks anavar onc cycle and then 4 weeks by itself then time for PCT :) proviron can also be added with the anavar ;) helps harden up a lil more as well..

Make sure to get some milk thistle as well when running the var :)


Yeah, I always have the Vitamins D, E, B-Complex injection and milk thistle as a standard. Believer in drinking daily vitamins!!! B)
Sweet, will stack the Anavar and Proviron for bridging stage then. Sounds super!

Double sharp for the advise bud. ;)

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