Dbol help

Mr T wrote:

Leroux wrote:

Mr T wrote: Howzit leroux!

Quick question, what made you decide to use supertest 2ml per week over testen or testocyp?

Just wondering...

I was advisted to me by a very experienced guy , as far as I know it is a cobination between test and you wil get best of both worlds and when combining with supertest , its running on long esters , like I'm competing in sept so that's my reson , hope this answers your question

Whats your pinning schedule with the supertest? you do get the best of both worlds it will just need to be pinned more frequently then Cyp or E to take full advantage of the short esters(this is what i hear anyway)

I'm pinning on teusdays and fridays and to kickstart my cycle I'm running dbol from monday to give me a boost alkso !

@Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Superstest is better to inject 3 times.

VonD wrote: Superstest is better to inject 3 times.

Agreed, thats the best if your budget allows it.

Mr T wrote: @Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Dbol will be taken for 4 weeks which will be probably be enough time for test to act ..!

Mr T wrote: @Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Props half life is 4.5 days, more than enough HL for twice a week Supertest

Leroux wrote:

Mr T wrote: @Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Dbol will be taken for 4 weeks which will be probably be enough time for test to act ..!

I see what you are saying but the point of the short esters is so it kicks in sooner, if your only going to inject it twice a week and using the dbol for the kick start then imo you should just run testen 300

Oupa wrote:

Mr T wrote: @Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Props half life is 4.5 days, more than enough HL for twice a week Supertest

Agreed but for the sake of stable blood levels like he wants for the dbol I'd pin it more is all I'm saying

VonD wrote: Superstest is better to inject 3 times.

Is your usage than 3ml a week ?

You can adjust you as you see fit. .7ml x3 is 2.1 ml a week.

Mr T wrote:

Oupa wrote:

Mr T wrote: @Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Props half life is 4.5 days, more than enough HL for twice a week Supertest

Agreed but for the sake of stable blood levels like he wants for the dbol I'd pin it more is all I'm saying

Here is your esters

Supertest 320 Esters
Testosterone-Phenylpropionate (+- 4Days)
Testosterone-Isocaproate (+-9 Days)
Testosterone-Propionate (+- 4.5 Days)
Testosterone-Enanthate (+-11 Days)
Testosterone-Cypionate (+-12 Days)

Stable blood levels with test will be maintained as long as you stay within the suggested test half life.

As for the DBOL

He must split his dbol doses up to prevent the already (increased test blood levels) to stay acceptable.

Oupa wrote:

Mr T wrote:

Oupa wrote:

Mr T wrote: @Oupa- oh okay I see, are the short esters going to have any impact tho? Wouldn't mon wed fri for eg be better?

Props half life is 4.5 days, more than enough HL for twice a week Supertest

Agreed but for the sake of stable blood levels like he wants for the dbol I'd pin it more is all I'm saying

Here is your esters

Supertest 320 Esters
Testosterone-Phenylpropionate (+- 4Days)
Testosterone-Isocaproate (+-9 Days)
Testosterone-Propionate (+- 4.5 Days)
Testosterone-Enanthate (+-11 Days)
Testosterone-Cypionate (+-12 Days)

Stable blood levels with test will be maintained as long as you stay within the suggested test half life.

As for the DBOL

He must split his dbol doses up to prevent the already (increased test blood levels) to stay acceptable.

Okay i should have said stable test levels, but i understand what you are saying with regards to the half life of each compound i just have one more question...

So if i bought testen 300 and kick started with prop then i could inject the prop every 4.5 days and that would be as effective as pinning EOD?

btw im not arguing with you or anything of the sort im still learning...

Let me explain it to you like this

Test Prop example - half life is 4.5 days. Lets simplify this to 4 days. (for argument sake)

Say for instance you pin 200mg (2ml) of test prop, by the end of day 4 your remaining test in your blood will be @ 100mg. (half of the pinned value) 4 days from that you will have 50mg of test in your blood. (half of the halved value) and so on....

So when trying to minimize blood fluctuations, you try and keep the pin dates as close as possible. Short esters EOD and Long Esters even once a week. The more stable test (STEROID) in your blood, the better the results.

PS - It eventually gets very technical as 100mg test is not totaling 100mg of test and you have to consider molecule weight, and and and...

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Oupa wrote: Let me explain it to you like this

Test Prop example - half life is 4.5 days. Lets simplify this to 4 days. (for argument sake)

Say for instance you pin 200mg (2ml) of test prop, by the end of day 4 your remaining test in your blood will be @ 100mg. (half of the pinned value) 4 days from that you will have 50mg of test in your blood. (half of the halved value) and so on....

So when trying to minimize blood fluctuations, you try and keep the pin dates as close as possible. Short esters EOD and Long Esters even once a week. The more stable test (STEROID) in your blood, the better the results.

PS - It eventually gets very technical as 100mg test is not totaling 100mg of test and you have to consider molecule weight, and and and...

Thanks for the explanation oupa!

I still think it would be more beneficial to pin supertest 3 x per week agree to disagree? Lol

Yes it is, agreed, but like i said, if your budget allows it.

Oupa wrote: Yes it is, agreed, but like i said, if your budget allows it.

Okay let's say I have gut some cash left what do you guys suggest as I know only basics haha ..!?

You can pin the st twice a week and do a dose of prop in-between thats equivalent to the amount of prop in the st.

That way you benefit from the short eaters.

That said you will run out of injection sites due to the length of the cycle. Good luck pinning in scar tissue.

Leroux wrote:

Oupa wrote: Yes it is, agreed, but like i said, if your budget allows it.

Okay let's say I have gut some cash left what do you guys suggest as I know only basics haha ..!?

No I just meant keep the dosage the same and pin 3x instead of 2x...like vonD said it will be 0.7ml mon wed fri,

What prog said is probably best but will cost you more but if that's not an issue then take his advice

More injections are better for stable levels.I did a prop/tren cycle injected each day and the difference to a eod cycle is noticeable.

Okay new and improve cycle :

Super test 320 @ 3 times a week
Equi 350 @ 2 times per week
Dbol 50mg @ 4 times per day

I'm not gonna take prop now as my buget wouldn't allow it haha ..!

What u huys think ?

Leroux wrote: Dbol 50mg @ 4 times per day

Is the dbol 10mg or 5mg tabs ?

Oupa wrote:

Leroux wrote: Dbol 50mg @ 4 times per day

Is the dbol 10mg or 5mg tabs ?

Its 10mg caps oupa

50mg split in 4, that's 12.5mg

Oupa wrote: 50mg split in 4, that's 12.5mg

Unless he does like 20mg before training...