Test Prop + TBol + (NPP or Tren or Masteron) Help

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23 May 2013 09:28 #139570 by crawler
Hi Gents,

Planning my next cycle, will be my 1st time on short esters.
Just finished 12 weeks diet to bring bodyfat % down. Training, diet & cardio will be changed up as soon as I start the below, diet will be for another 12 weeks, through cycle, bridge and PCT.

Initially only wanted to do Prop + Tbol, but the more I read, now I want to add another injectable to the stack

92kg
1.88
Bodyfat 9% & 18% - 2 different guys does this both with 7 site calipers and 1 gets high and other very low - abs is currently visible

Goal is to add some quality lean muscle and push the fat % further down

Week 1 - 6 Prop 150mg EOD
Week 1 - 4 Tbol 60mg ED
Week 6 - 8 Winny 40mg ED - bridge to PCT

Initially would only do PCT2, 14 days waiting period after last Prop shot, but with adding below compound will do PCT 3, can not get Ovidrel so will use Pregnyl/HCG

Choice now is to add NPP / Tren ace or Masteron prop

What would be your choice and why, I am leaning towards NPP but heard great thing about Tren. What would push me to go for masteron, or anyone of these 3 compound specifically?

Thanks guys

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23 May 2013 09:43 - 23 May 2013 09:45 #139578 by Oupa
My suggestion based on xp and very good lean muscle gains.

TBol week 1 - 5 @ 60mg ED (split dosages)
Test Prop 8 weeks 1.5ml EOD
NPP 8 weeks @ 1ml EOD

Extra - If you have the cash add Proviron @ 40mg ED or Masteron @ 1ml EOD.

As for Tren, you can never go wrong with it, but how many 19nor cycles have you successfully completed ?

* Remember the cabaser / adex/letro onhand.
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23 May 2013 09:46 #139581 by Thunderbeast
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If I was going to use a 19-nor, it would be tren.
You get more value for your risk of shutdown.
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23 May 2013 09:50 #139582 by VonD
1-8 weeks prop 1.5-2ml eod
1-8weeks tren ace 1-1.5ml eod
1-5 weeks tbol @ 60mg

Optional
Proviron throughout-40-60mg

Estrogen control
adex preferably
letro if adex is too expensive

Prolactin
cabaser-.5-1 tab a week

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23 May 2013 09:58 #139585 by 00pump
I'm currently doing

1-6 Winstrol 40mg ED
1-6 Weeks Tren 0.75ml ED
1-8 Week Prop 1ml EOD
1-8 Week Maestron 1ml EOD

Working like wonders ;)

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23 May 2013 10:10 - 23 May 2013 10:11 #139595 by Thunderbeast
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00pump wrote: I'm currently doing

1-6 Winstrol 40mg ED
1-6 Weeks Tren 0.75ml ED
1-8 Week Prop 1ml EOD
1-8 Week Maestron 1ml EOD

Working like wonders ;)


Pump, do you use prolactin lowering drugs? like dostinex while on tren?
Isnt it only for when issues arise?

Just want to know since nowadays most people one here just use it from the start...
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23 May 2013 10:27 #139602 by Koe007

Thunderbeast wrote:

00pump wrote: I'm currently doing

1-6 Winstrol 40mg ED
1-6 Weeks Tren 0.75ml ED
1-8 Week Prop 1ml EOD
1-8 Week Maestron 1ml EOD

Working like wonders ;)


Pump, do you use prolactin lowering drugs? like dostinex while on tren?
Isnt it only for when issues arise?

Just want to know since nowadays most people one here just use it from the start...


Don't use additional compounds unnecessarily if the need is not there, you just adding further stress to your system. Sorry just my view point.

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23 May 2013 10:46 #139611 by crawler
"Oupa" - Dankie oupa, sal like om masteron sam Npp of Tren te run, maar net 1 ongelukkig die keer. For 19nor have ran 2 deca cycles previously and others was 2 EQ earlier all with Cyp or Enan

"Thunderbeast" - This is what I am starting to think as well

"VonD" - Got some Letro from previous cycle still - so sorted there.

"00pump" - This would be ideal for me, but need to choose between tren or maestron in this case

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23 May 2013 11:19 #139615 by Oupa
As jy voel jou ligaam is reg daarvoor, go for Tren A

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23 May 2013 11:56 #139619 by 00pump
This is the first cycle in 10 years I have not developed gyneconastia, so as Koe says no prolactin lowering drugs, I do have on hand incase.

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23 May 2013 13:45 #139660 by jackrabbit1
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1. NPP works GREAT on me.
2. Add Masteron. Test(Prop) + 19nor(Tren/NPP) + DHT(Masteron////pick masteron) makes for a great cutting cycle.
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23 May 2013 15:34 #139694 by 00pump

jackrabbit1 wrote: 1. NPP works GREAT on me.
2. Add Masteron. Test(Prop) + 19nor(Tren/NPP) + DHT(Masteron////pick masteron) makes for a great cutting cycle.


Beautifully targeting of the hormone chain ;)

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23 May 2013 16:19 #139706 by Koe007

jackrabbit1 wrote: 1. NPP works GREAT on me.
2. Add Masteron. Test(Prop) + 19nor(Tren/NPP) + DHT(Masteron////pick masteron) makes for a great cutting cycle.


19Nors are my friend I also love NPP :)

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24 May 2013 08:42 #139809 by crawler
Thanks for all the advice

Adding Tren ace for this cycle :evil:

Cycle after this one would like to do:

Test Prop + NPP + Maestron

About the orals, would anavar work better than Tbol with a winny bridge again?

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24 May 2013 09:10 #139814 by Oupa
Just keep it at

Prop / Tren / Masteron. Thats a kickass cycle.

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24 May 2013 19:59 #139935 by Safehouse

00pump wrote: I'm currently doing

1-6 Winstrol 40mg ED
1-6 Weeks Tren 0.75ml ED
1-8 Week Prop 1ml EOD
1-8 Week Maestron 1ml EOD

Working like wonders ;)


00pump, are you posting a log elsewhere on the forum? I don't see one.

Would be nice to hear your experience given your history of previous cycles and your knowledge.

Sorry for off topic post.

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