Tren concoction??

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27 May 2013 18:17 #140098 by Novice!
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Hey guys and girls,

Just running through some cycle idea's and was originally planning an npp and sust cycle but hav now been thinking
of using tren and sust.

Considering susts need for eod injections to maintain stable bloods i could get away with the npp but now was thinking of mixing tren enan and acetate and making a blend to go with the sust.
has anyone tried this before and what kind of results did you get?

I hav run tren and npp in previous cycles (seperately of course ;) ) so i know whats expected in terms of sides just not sure if theres a point in combining the two esters?

cycle plan:
Wk 1-10 1ml sust 250mg eod = 875mg p/w
wk 1-8 0.5ml tren enan 150mg eod = 260mg p/w
wk 1-8 0.5ml tren ace 80mg eod = 140mg p/w
wk 9 - 12 win tabs 50mg p/d

I realise the tren dosage is fairly high being 400mg total but the enan will only kick in later and i can always drop the acetate if need be.

Pct: Day 1-7 clomid 100mg
8-38 nolva 20mg
8-18 hcg 1000iu eod split through out the day.

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27 May 2013 18:30 - 27 May 2013 18:52 #140100 by VonD
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waste of money.Run acetate.Faster results and its just better all round.

1ml eod.
Have some cabaser on hand for prolactin sides.
PCT 3 is needed as tren shuts you down.
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27 May 2013 19:36 #140107 by Thunderbeast
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If I remember correctly, dave palumbo's favourite cycle was 1amp sust250 and 100mg tren ace eod.
Definitly one of my near future ventures....

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27 May 2013 21:05 - 27 May 2013 21:19 #140112 by manery
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Novice! wrote: Hey guys and girls,

Just running through some cycle idea's and was originally planning an npp and sust cycle but hav now been thinking
of using tren and sust.

Considering susts need for eod injections to maintain stable bloods i could get away with the npp but now was thinking of mixing tren enan and acetate and making a blend to go with the sust.
has anyone tried this before and what kind of results did you get?

I hav run tren and npp in previous cycles (seperately of course ;) ) so i know whats expected in terms of sides just not sure if theres a point in combining the two esters?

cycle plan:
Wk 1-10 1ml sust 250mg eod = 875mg p/w
wk 1-8 0.5ml tren enan 150mg eod = 260mg p/w *150mg eod would be 450mg p/w
wk 1-8 0.5ml tren ace 80mg eod = 140mg p/w *80 eod would be 240mg p/w
wk 9 - 12 win tabs 50mg p/d

I realise the tren dosage is fairly high being 400mg total but the enan will only kick in later and i can always drop the acetate if need be.

Pct: Day 1-7 clomid 100mg
8-38 nolva 20mg
8-18 hcg 1000iu eod split through out the day.


Read my corrections to your weekly dosages. Are you pining M/W/F or e2d? Am i missing something? haha.

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27 May 2013 21:32 #140115 by Pyroclasm
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Actually EOD shots means times by 3.5 so you are getting 280mg Tren Ace per week

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27 May 2013 21:54 #140116 by manery
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Pyroclasm wrote: Actually EOD shots means times by 3.5 so you are getting 280mg Tren Ace per week


Im used too pinning M/W/F, thats why I times it by 3 ;)

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27 May 2013 23:05 #140119 by Novice!
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sorry guys i did say 0.5ml eod, i can do math ;)

0.5 x 150 = 75 * 3.5 = 262.5mg
0.5 x 80 = 40 * 3.5 = 140mg

VonD why a waste of money? hav u tried this cycle? i am not argueing with you would just lieke to get opinions..
My logic behind this thinking is that if u compare a prop only, sust only and test enan only cycles each individual gains would be drastically different to the other. i am not saying tha acetate is not the way to go but plenty guys get excellent results off sust and so I am applying that combo onto the tren.
I hav got cabaser on hand and will adjust PCT accordingly!

either way my cycle will consist of tren and sust just would like to chat about pro's vs cons a bit before hand :)

@ thunderbeast I am seriously looking forward to this cycle!

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27 May 2013 23:38 #140120 by VonD
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Test e and prop differ because of water retention.
Tren ace works faster and kicks like a mule when it does.
I only run tren ace.and 9/10 okes that know their stuff would agree with me.i ran tren e once such a dissapointment compared to acetate.
Tren e just does not have the kick and strenght and gains compared to ace.guys may differ with me but i have done the ground work to back this up.
So out of 10 weeks ace will kick in at 2-3 and tren e at 4-5 so there is more time for gains and benefit.
Should you have sides tren ace would be out of your system long before tren e.

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28 May 2013 09:57 #140128 by Novice!
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Thank you VonD thats exactly wat I was looking for, real experienced results.
So my cycle will look like:
1ml tren acetate 80mg eod = 280mg p/w
1ml sust 250mg eod = 875mg p/w
might add some win tabs to be an ultimate hardening lean mass cycle!

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28 May 2013 10:19 #140131 by VonD
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no problem bro.
If you really want to make this an ultimate cycle i would add masteron.

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28 May 2013 10:57 #140139 by Novice!
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If I can get my Bf under 10% then Ill look at masteron, at the moment its a bit out of my budget but
I may as well cut BF until I can afford it.
I'm sitting at 13% now so not too far off

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28 May 2013 11:01 #140140 by Koe007
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VonD wrote: Test e and prop differ because of water retention.
Tren ace works faster and kicks like a mule when it does.
I only run tren ace.and 9/10 okes that know their stuff would agree with me.i ran tren e once such a dissapointment compared to acetate.
Tren e just does not have the kick and strenght and gains compared to ace.guys may differ with me but i have done the ground work to back this up.
So out of 10 weeks ace will kick in at 2-3 and tren e at 4-5 so there is more time for gains and benefit.
Should you have sides tren ace would be out of your system long before tren e.


^^^Agreed 100%

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28 May 2013 19:41 #140181 by vega5
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I love Tren, its by far by fav steroid. But man, it fucked me up. Just use it when you either want to compete or have hit a serious wall. Just my 2c

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