Pre-cycle 'shopping list'.

Alright guys I'll be starting a cycle hopefully soon and I thought this topic could help a lot of future posters (and myself). I think it is important to be thoroughly prepared for one's cycle thus I need some advice on what to stock up on to get ready. (Ek voel soos 'n kind en dis kersfees!)

My cycle will be as follows:
1-6: tbol @ 60mg ed
1-12: test cyp @ 500mg pw
1-17: proviron @ 40mg ed
9-17: anavar @ 60mg ed

Pct protocol 2, however HcG from week 6-17 (or 6 through pct) @ 500ui


My thoughts sofar:

*Tribulus for pct and +/- 1 month afterwards
*Multivitamins for entire duration
*5-htpa for pct
*liver support starting month before cycle until month after pct
*joint support starting in week one until after pct
*Bco and B12 once p/w
*voltarin and/or cataflam for inevitable muscle pain and/or inflammation

What am I missing/what can I drop? Obviously one does not need to buy everything before hand but rather when the need arises. What I am interested in is what can I get for my skin that will help prevent/cure oily skin and zits (I already have failry oily skin )

Let's see if we can get a list together that'll cater to most guys looking at doing a cycle for future reference.

That is a awesome cycle just the anavar is very expensive, mine is almost the same,i am at week 10 with mine, just add in some Fish oils, and athroguard from day 1 my joints gave me a bit of a problem, with the tbol you get very strong very quickly.

Maybe this can also be a discussion if Milk thistle should be used when using a 17alkylised steroid, i have heard rumours that it makes the oral less effective maybe switch to essetials?

Also instead of tribulus use Applied nutriceuticals Free Test it also blocks the late estrogen pop ups if one gets it. Makes your balls big i used it before i did any steroid cycles was the only test booster that actually worked for me.

Get zinplex tablets, use it during cycle to help control skin problems.

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Get zinplex tablets, use it during cycle to help control skin problems.

I assume this is otc? Any specific brand I should get?

Get the zinplex sport. Its got a red cap. About 70 bucks at dischem or durbell. Its basically a ZMA formula but a lot cheaper than other name brands and even contain some other minerals like potasium and copper, an element that gets depleted when using a lot of zinc. A very good sup that I use year round. Also try himalaya liv52 ds for the liver instead of milk thistle and you can add some dischem brand essentiale caps. I use liv52 off cycle as it helps with protein absorbtion and retention!

Mercon wrote: Maybe this can also be a discussion if Milk thistle should be used when using a 17alkylised steroid, i have heard rumours that it makes the oral less effective maybe switch to essetials?

Milk thisle is very good for liver protection against orals. It just hinders gains if you are on cycle for other reasons.

@ Pyroclasm, You said milk thisle hinder gains if you are on cylce for other reasons, please elaborate what you mean?

The way milk thistle works is by effectively flushing your liver of all toxins and such. While on cycle your liver will have some amounts of anabolic compounds that it needs to digest. If you take milk thistle you will lose some of the given compounds in the liver.

Cool thanks man

I would suggest getting an over the counter blood pressure tablet like bilocor 5mg if you suffer from it.

I use zinmag sport aswell and it helps me with muscle cramps, my skin etc. Its good stuff.

The joint support is a great idea! I use joint heal from pro nutrition. It has exactly the same ingridients and dosages as the ssn one and its half the price. I take 8 capsules a day instead of 6 because I am on winny and I really struggle with joints! No trouble so far so it must be good stuff.

I always like to use vit C while on cycle to keep my immune system going strong. I'm not actually sure how well it works but its so cheap that I always just include it anyway.

Good luck and enjoy your cycle

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Ok so this is what we've got so far:

]Liver Support:
*Himalaya Liv 52
*Essentiales
*Milk Thistle (note that this might affect gains)

Skin:
*Zinplex Sport (Red Cap)

Heart/Blood Pressure:
*Bilocor

Joints:
*Pro Nutrition - Joint Heal
*Arthro Guard
*Essential Oils (Omega 3/6/9)

Vitamins:
*Essential Oils (Omega 3/6)
*Flaxseed Oil
*Multivitamin
*Vitamin C
*B12 and B-Complex injections (they are cheap and well worth it - www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-suppl...69-b-complex-and-b12 for help with dosages and frequency)

PCT/Testosterone support
*Applied Nutriceuticals Free Test
*5HPTA

I'll keep this list updated (couldn't edit my original post)

Witwolf wrote: Ok so this is what we've got so far:

]Liver Support:
*Himalaya Liv 52 Choose one of the first two on cycle. Liv 52 is the better option though.
*Essentiales
*Milk Thistle (note that this might affect gains) Four weeks before cycle up to start. Then resume during PCT

Skin:
*Zinplex Sport (Red Cap)
6L water per day and 90% of people are completely sorted.

Heart/Blood Pressure:
*Bilocor

Joints:
*Pro Nutrition - Joint Heal
*Arthro Guard Only need one. Arthro is pretty good I.m.o
*Essential Oils (Omega 3/6/9) Dont need to supplement with omega 9 as you get loads from food

Vitamins:
*Essential Oils (Omega 3/6)
*Flaxseed Oil You already have fish oils so don't need it. Fish oils better I.m.o
*Multivitamin
*Vitamin C
*B12 and B-Complex injections (they are cheap and well worth it - www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/9-suppl...69-b-complex-and-b12 for help with dosages and frequency)
Calmag
Vitamin D

PCT/Testosterone support
*Applied Nutriceuticals Free Test
*5HPTA
DMA
ZMA

I'll keep this list updated (couldn't edit my original post)

Sweet I was hoping someone would sort through it. There we have it though. For anyone looking at doing a cycle, or wondering what they can use to compliment an active lifestyle with, look at Pyro's post.

Shot bud.

I help gladly brother.

add Vitamin D3 at like 5000ius a day
Boron at 10mg a day
Vitamin E 1000ius a day