second cycle running 5bol twice is it good or bad?

Hi gents been a while just wanna run something past all da experts on this site, I am planning my second cycle and I just wanna know if its a good, reasonable or stupid cycle.

My first cycle was a test only @ 500mg a week split mon and thurs 12 weeks, pct nolva n clomid(according to doctari 1)

Stats : age 31, hieght 1.65plus minus, weight 88.4(as of 01/07)body fat + - 14%

Planned cycle
500mg(testoviron although hoping to get supertest 320 then it will b 640mg) split mon thurs. 12 weeks first 2 weeks double dose
35mg Dbol from week 3 to week 5 break till week 8
25mg Dbol week 8 to 10 then break till week 13
? Mg winstrol(suggestions please) week 13 till 3 days before pct
Pct nolva, clomid and maybe hcg(not sure)

Diet is ok ( I don't know da caloric breakdown but I eat 500g chicken daily, 120g whey protien split in 3 shakes, carbs 2 cups jungle oats in da morning, 2 cups (raw) rice when cooked split over 3 meals then after workout 6 to 6:30pm 80g megamass n 9pm maize meal 3 cups make stiffpap with. 4 eggs or fish 3 fillets) am always eating so I think diet is ok could do wiith some tweeks but my budget is kinda low

I would appreciate any and all suggestions thanx
ps don't bite my head off please lol

diggamon wrote: Hi gents been a while just wanna run something past all da experts on this site, I am planning my second cycle and I just wanna know if its a good, reasonable or stupid cycle.

My first cycle was a test only @ 500mg a week split mon and thurs 12 weeks, pct nolva n clomid(according to doctari 1)

Stats : age 31, hieght 1.65plus minus, weight 88.4(as of 01/07)body fat + - 14%

Planned cycle
500mg(testoviron although hoping to get supertest 320 then it will b 640mg) split mon thurs. 12 weeks first 2 weeks double dose
35mg Dbol from week 3 to week 5 break till week 8
25mg Dbol week 8 to 10 then break till week 13
? Mg winstrol(suggestions please) week 13 till 3 days before pct
Pct nolva, clomid and maybe hcg(not sure)

Diet is ok ( I don't know da caloric breakdown but I eat 500g chicken daily, 120g whey protien split in 3 shakes, carbs 2 cups jungle oats in da morning, 2 cups (raw) rice when cooked split over 3 meals then after workout 6 to 6:30pm 80g megamass n 9pm maize meal 3 cups make stiffpap with. 4 eggs or fish 3 fillets) am always eating so I think diet is ok could do wiith some tweeks but my budget is kinda low

I would appreciate any and all suggestions thanx
ps don't bite my head off please lol

I will answer you with a question first: when did you finish your last cycle?

Otherwise cycle as follows:
1-4 dbol @ 40mg ed (don't split it up, use it as a frontload for 4 weeks, get your strength up for when the test kicks in)
1-12: test cyp (supertest) @ 500mg (640mg) pw

Bridge with winstrol @ 40mg ed.
I would use hcg from week 5/6 up until start of pct @500ui p.w

if you can afford it, add Proviron for entire length of cycle+bridge (otherwise just week 1-12) @ 40mg ed (just check if I'm right on this dosage).

If you front load your cycle with Dbol, no need to take supertest, you can use cheaper test, look at this cycle:

Letrozole on hand for side effects (Gyno):If you use this dont take too much 6 drops is enough every other day when sides effects BEGIN.
Dbol: 40mg (week 1-4)
Test ethanate @ 2 x 1ml 300mg per week (week 1-12)
or
Test cyponiate @ 2 x 1ml 250ml per week (week 1-12)

Winny @ 40mg (After last shot of test) And then go to aticles section and work out the halflife of winny to see when to stop winny before PCT

Proviron : Like Witwolf said entire cycle if possible but use with winny later if your budget is tight.

Also look at PCT 2,
And your diet need work bud go read DJ's Stickies to get an idea how to work out how much calories you actually need.

Hope this helps: always sort out your Diet and Training before touching gear.

Mercon wrote: If you front load your cycle with Dbol, no need to take supertest, you can use cheaper test

Dont agree. Supet test has prop yes but the majority of test is from the other 3esters. You will only notice the effects of the st by week 4 or 5. So ya, frontload away.

@prOgr3siv3

Please help me here supertest has the following in please add what I dont know ,

Supertest
Testosterone Propionate 40mg -Fast acting
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 40mg -??
Testosterone Isocaproate 40mg - ??
Testosterone Enanthate 100mg - Slow acting
Testosterone Cypionate 100mg - Slow acting

Would just like to know because i have read on the forum other guys only used supertest because it kicks in fast.

For a second cycle test Cyp or ethanate is better for a beginner ?

Mercon wrote: @prOgr3siv3

Please help me here supertest has the following in please add what I dont know ,

Supertest
Testosterone Propionate 40mg -Fast acting
Testosterone Phenylpropionate 40mg -??
Testosterone Isocaproate 40mg - ??
Testosterone Enanthate 100mg - Slow acting
Testosterone Cypionate 100mg - Slow acting

Would just like to know because i have read on the forum other guys only used supertest because it kicks in fast.

For a second cycle test Cyp or ethanate is better for a beginner ?

Ah yes forgot about the phenylpropionate. Iso is just shorter than enanthate. And phenyl just shorter than than iso. So thats basicly 80mg short acting (thats like a trt dose if you pin 2mil a week) and 240mg medium to long acting.

I just came off a super test cycle with a dbol front load. I only got strenght gains in week 5 hey.

Cyp and enanthate are very simular. If you dont plan on pinning anything else that require more frequent shots together with your test just stick to cyp.

Or you could even give super test a try if you dont mind injecting 3 x a week.

Thanks bud

Thanks gents, last cycle ended beginning of da year, planning to go on cycle mid august which will give me a 6 month break + - between cycles, yeah I agree on da diet issue it needs serious work, training is solid I hit 4 to 5 sessions a week depending if am going light or heavy plus 45 to 60min cardio on sat, I haven't been able to go beyond da magic 90k, just seem to maintain strengh altho I look smaller the weight has remained mostly stable from the last cycle , will go thru dj's stickys again n c where I can tweek my food intake, try that n if no result mayb run above cycle from december, thanx bafwetu saAlate for the advice most appreciated