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18 Jul 2013 20:48 #144537 by Django
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So I've decided to do my first proper cutting cycle..

I've never been able to get lower than 7% body fat for some reason and would now like to try push that little bit further and try get shredded...

Now I know diet is key etc etc and I have managed to get fairly lean before without the use of AAS but every time I come off a cut I look so skinny that when I wear a t shirt it doesn't even look like I train...

I've only ever done bulking cycles with long esters.. Test, deca, equipoise etc

So to help me retain as much size as possible this time (recently came off a bulk) I was thinking of the following: please advise on dosages also.. The highest I have gone with test was test e 600mgs per week..

Test Prop 100mg/ml - unsure of dosage to take
Tren Ace 75mg/ml - please advise dosage (first time tren user, and using acetate first in case of sides)
T3 - 20mcg building up to 70mcg
Beesting - 2 tabs a day (ECA + Yohimbine fat burner)
Arimidex - 0.5mg EOD
Cabasser - 1mg a week

Do I need an oral or to add anything in?
Would adding dnp for my first week be beneficial in any way just to shed a few kilos of fat..

Thank you in advance

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18 Jul 2013 22:44 #144545 by Pyroclasm
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Stats?

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18 Jul 2013 22:48 #144546 by Django
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180cm height
108kgs weight
18% body fat

This will be my 7th cycle

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19 Jul 2013 00:53 #144551 by RvP
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Django wrote: 180cm height
108kgs weight
18% body fat

This will be my 7th cycle


I really think you should be dropping your body fat quite a bit before jumping to Tren...
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19 Jul 2013 08:36 #144557 by Django
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Was thinking about the hcg diet for about 2 to 3 weeks before starting, what do you think?

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19 Jul 2013 08:58 #144560 by Pyroclasm
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Oupa this one is perfect for your "be consistent" speech... :)

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19 Jul 2013 10:03 #144568 by Oupa
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My speech in short - He is gonna hurt himself.

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19 Jul 2013 10:28 #144575 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Hi Django

I agree with RvP. Try dropping a few % body fat before you run the cycle, otherwise which could have been fantastic results would end up as "okay" results. Run your Beesting/T3 stack for 4-6 weeks prior to starting the main cycle maybe.

How much gear do you have or what is your proposed cycle length? 8, 10 or 12 weeks? or more?
I would klap Tren A @ 300mg/week; Test P @ 400mg/week and see how the sides are before considering increasing the dosages.

Also, if your budget allow for Anavar, add some to your cycle maybe for a bridging stage.

No oral is needed i.m.o. Tren A & Test P will kick in fairly quickly.
I haven't used DNP before but read up on it only. No input on that from me - sorry.

Other than that, I think you are good to go.

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19 Jul 2013 10:31 #144578 by Rhino
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Don't run T3 without jiuce

Go big or go home...
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19 Jul 2013 10:54 #144580 by Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!!
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Rhino wrote: Don't run T3 without jiuce


I stand corrected. Rhino has a valid point here.
Thanks for the input. :)

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19 Jul 2013 12:07 #144590 by VonD
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Django wrote: Would adding dnp for my first week be beneficial in any way just to shed a few kilos of fat..


Leave the dnp.you need a lot of supps with that and knowledge.

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19 Jul 2013 14:05 #144613 by Django
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Zyzz fauurrrkkk!!!! wrote: Hi Django

I agree with RvP. Try dropping a few % body fat before you run the cycle, otherwise which could have been fantastic results would end up as "okay" results. Run your Beesting/T3 stack for 4-6 weeks prior to starting the main cycle maybe.

How much gear do you have or what is your proposed cycle length? 8, 10 or 12 weeks? or more?
I would klap Tren A @ 300mg/week; Test P @ 400mg/week and see how the sides are before considering increasing the dosages.

Also, if your budget allow for Anavar, add some to your cycle maybe for a bridging stage.

No oral is needed i.m.o. Tren A & Test P will kick in fairly quickly.
I haven't used DNP before but read up on it only. No input on that from me - sorry.

Other than that, I think you are good to go.


Thanks very much for the feedback bud..

I have access to tren a 75mg/ml or 100mg/ml so I can either do 225mgs per week or 300 per week but I'm thinking that 225mgs would be better due to it being my first tren cycle..

Planning on a short 8 week cycle..

Do you think that if I run the hcg diet.. 250iu every day with a very low calorie diet (almost a crash diet) just for like 2 weeks or so to shed some kilos quickly and then start on something like a ketogenic diet with the prop and tren and some beesting this will give me better results?

Just wanting to drop some kgs fast even if I lose muscle with it

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19 Jul 2013 14:10 #144616 by Oupa
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Django wrote:
Just wanting to drop some kgs fast even if I lose muscle with it


:blink:
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19 Jul 2013 14:28 #144617 by mike123
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Django wrote: Was thinking about the hcg diet for about 2 to 3 weeks before starting, what do you think?


WTF is a hcg diet ?

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19 Jul 2013 14:42 #144620 by Muscleaddict
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mike123 wrote:

Django wrote: Was thinking about the hcg diet for about 2 to 3 weeks before starting, what do you think?


WTF is a hcg diet ?


Haha :lol: , it's a bullshit fad promoted by quacks after a quick buck. They are saying you can lose 1.5KG a day by injecting a daily small dose of HCG along with eating a very low calorie (starvation) diet and that it is completely healthy. :lol:
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19 Jul 2013 14:52 #144622 by crawler
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Oupa wrote:

Django wrote:
Just wanting to drop some kgs fast even if I lose muscle with it


:blink:


Don't need no steroids to do this, a crap diet will do.

Normally the goal is to add on muscle mass

Go on keto diet man
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19 Jul 2013 15:28 #144626 by Ontong
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@Django, Post a picture so we can see your body type.

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