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19 Aug 2013 21:08 #147991
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What's up guys!
It's been a long while since I've been on here, but once again I would appreciate some feedback on my proposed next cycle.
I'm currently 24, around 105kg's and 14-15% bodyfat... which I'm still working on dropping
I'm no longer on the bodybuilding scene, so body fat isn't a major concern, however, strength to weight ratio is! My diet and training is on par, so I'm not going to get into that.
So without any further chit chat, here's my plan:
Dbol at 50mg/ day for 3 weeks
Deca @ 300mg/ week for 12 weeks
Test E @ 750mg/ week for 12 weeks
Oral winni for 3 weeks from week 12 to 15 (dosage will depend on how much I can get)
PCT will be started 45 days after my last shot of deca and will consist of:
Clomid @ 100mg/ day for 7 days
Nolvadex @ 20mg/ day for 30 days
HCG @ 500iu's every other day for 2 weeks
Any input will be greatly appreciated guys.
Thanks in advance!
It's been a long while since I've been on here, but once again I would appreciate some feedback on my proposed next cycle.
I'm currently 24, around 105kg's and 14-15% bodyfat... which I'm still working on dropping
I'm no longer on the bodybuilding scene, so body fat isn't a major concern, however, strength to weight ratio is! My diet and training is on par, so I'm not going to get into that.
So without any further chit chat, here's my plan:
Dbol at 50mg/ day for 3 weeks
Deca @ 300mg/ week for 12 weeks
Test E @ 750mg/ week for 12 weeks
Oral winni for 3 weeks from week 12 to 15 (dosage will depend on how much I can get)
PCT will be started 45 days after my last shot of deca and will consist of:
Clomid @ 100mg/ day for 7 days
Nolvadex @ 20mg/ day for 30 days
HCG @ 500iu's every other day for 2 weeks
Any input will be greatly appreciated guys.
Thanks in advance!
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19 Aug 2013 22:40 #147998
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Everything looks ok....
My opinion
Dbol @ 40mg ED for 4 weeks
Deca @ 450mg PW for 12 weeks
Test E @ 600mg PW for 14 weeks
Oral Winny @ 40mg ED for 5 weeks from week 12 to 17 (Bridge)
HCG 250iu twice a week from week 6 up to PCT.
PCT will be started 30 days after my last shot of Test and will consist of:
Clomid @ 100mg ED day for 7 days
Nolvadex @ 20mg ED day for 30 days
Aromasin @ 20mg ED for 30 days
Before cycle +- 2 weeks - Milk Thistle
In cycle to end - Essentiale
B12 + B Comp once a week
My opinion
Dbol @ 40mg ED for 4 weeks
Deca @ 450mg PW for 12 weeks
Test E @ 600mg PW for 14 weeks
Oral Winny @ 40mg ED for 5 weeks from week 12 to 17 (Bridge)
HCG 250iu twice a week from week 6 up to PCT.
PCT will be started 30 days after my last shot of Test and will consist of:
Clomid @ 100mg ED day for 7 days
Nolvadex @ 20mg ED day for 30 days
Aromasin @ 20mg ED for 30 days
Before cycle +- 2 weeks - Milk Thistle
In cycle to end - Essentiale
B12 + B Comp once a week
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20 Aug 2013 07:02 - 20 Aug 2013 07:03 #148008
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^^^ This! And add cabasser to your cycle to combat prolactin from the Deca.
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20 Aug 2013 22:00 #148115
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Much appreciated gents!
I might just add in the cabasser pyro...
One question about the hcg though; would it not benefit me more if I upped the hcg dosage a bit and then run it from week 8-10 and then again at the start of my pct to ensure recovery?
I might just add in the cabasser pyro...
One question about the hcg though; would it not benefit me more if I upped the hcg dosage a bit and then run it from week 8-10 and then again at the start of my pct to ensure recovery?
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21 Aug 2013 07:15 #148125
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The idea behind HCG on cycle is to prevent testicular attrophy. And when you are only preventing attrophy and not trying to jumpstart a broken engine like during PCT it does not take as high of a dose. Therefore we run the HCG at smaller doses from early on in the cycle. IF you would like to you can run another dose of HCG during PCT and at much higher dosages.
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21 Aug 2013 17:14 #148187
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Thanks for the feedback pyro. I understand the role of hcg during a cycle, I was just unsure if such a low dose per week would be effective enough after 6 weeks of deca.
That is why I asked about the higher dose run for only 2 weeks, and then again for pct. Surely that would prevent atrophy as well as maintain my body's sensitivity to LH which would in turn lead to a faster recovery?
That is why I asked about the higher dose run for only 2 weeks, and then again for pct. Surely that would prevent atrophy as well as maintain my body's sensitivity to LH which would in turn lead to a faster recovery?
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21 Aug 2013 17:17 #148188
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But then you are only preventing atrophy for two weeks?
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21 Aug 2013 17:32 #148191
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Your testes atrophy on cycle coz they're not being used right?
So during that 2 week period would I not get my body producing a little test; which in turn will prevent atrophy and aid in recovery post cycle?
Sorry if I'm not coming across clearly. I'm just trying to figure out the most efficient and beneficial way to do things.
So during that 2 week period would I not get my body producing a little test; which in turn will prevent atrophy and aid in recovery post cycle?
Sorry if I'm not coming across clearly. I'm just trying to figure out the most efficient and beneficial way to do things.
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21 Aug 2013 17:43 - 21 Aug 2013 17:44 #148192
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You want to run the HCG from week 8. By that time your testes are shut down harder than the mining industry when NUM goes on strike! That is not prevention bud.
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22 Aug 2013 03:26 #148271
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Alright man, thanks for the help
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