Cycle Log - Superdrol/Proviron

Hi Everyone

I have been studying posts on this forum for some time now and it has really made me itch to run a cycle. I have beein lifting for a number of years now but have never really been properly dedicated to the training and nutrition until the last 3 or 4 months, where I have been going the extra mile to eat and train properly. After much deliberation and speaking to mates who have tried different stacks, I have opted to run a 4 week Superdrol and Proviron stack as follows:

Days 1-4 : 10mg Superdrol, 20mg Proviron, to assess tolerance
Days 5-27: 20mg Superdrol, 40mg Proviron, split into 2 doses, 8am and 4pm.

Additional supplementation includes:

Red yeast rice (Apparently helps maintaing healthy lipid profile)
Cholesterol support (Dischem Gold Brand)
Milk Thistle and Essential for the Liver
Pressure-eeze Forte by Tibb (works fantastically to lower blood pressure, dropped from 150/90 to 130/80 within 1 day)
EFA's, about 5gr a day

For PCT I have Nolva at 40/20/20 with 60mg on day 1, and continuing with aforementioned supps as well as adding in some Saw Palmetto for the Prostate, 267mg ed

My stats are as follows:

Age: 26
Height: 1.84
Weight: 98kg
BF: Not sure, guessing approx 20-25%

Nutritional macros are 240gr Protein, 240gr carb, and 58gr Fat for approx 2500 kCals, as calculated using the Harris-Benedict Formula and on advice from DJ and Doctari in one of the diet stickies. I know the calories are low for my weight, but I am endomorphic with dense bone structure so I maintain around 93-95kg at this intake, which is a weight I would feel comfortable at.

I am now on day 8, and so far I am quite impressed. During today's chest workout I went up in both weight and reps for all my exercises compared to last week. And I just felt like a frikken machine, it was awesome. The strength and lean mass gains are what I'm looking for, and I'm seeing it already. Weight fluctuated a little during the week but is still the same as the start, but I attribute this to the two unplanned cheat meals this week (Damn farewell Pizza!! ) Blood pressure was high yesterday (150/90) so I started taking the blood pressure forte which has helped alot. The pumps are absolutely INSANE, actually painful at times! Did arms on day 6 and they felt like they were going to explode, never had a pump quite like it!! Any suggestions for this?

I would appreciate any input, suggestions, etc, and will keep this post updated on results, gains, and so forth.

Why would you want to run superdrol and proviron on its on for 4 weeks? What do you hope to achieve by doing this?

Bandit wrote: Why would you want to run superdrol and proviron on its on for 4 weeks? What do you hope to achieve by doing this?

The reason for the 4 week cycle is that in most of the literature I have read, Superdrol has been shown to be effective in 3-4 week cycles, and extending beyond this poses great risk to the Liver. I will keep you all updated on the results, and then we can see how effective it actually is. As stated in my post, I am pleasantly impressed by the strength gains already, and hope that this continues.

IronWolf wrote: ...Superdrol has been shown to be effective in 3-4 week cycles, and extending beyond this poses great risk to the Liver...

At minimum you should've done bloods. That way you could evaluate whether you should be concerned with the increased liver values when comparing to post blood work. That's the only way you could evaluate the risk attributed to the toxicity

IronWolf wrote: BF: Not sure, guessing approx 20-25%

How much research or thought did you put into this cycle?

I still don't understand why you would want to do a sperdrol cycle... No test???

@Chapel A fair amount of reading and speaking to people who have used superdrol and been happy with the strength and lean mass gains. I'm not in a hurry to drop the fat%, however gaining lean mass will accelerate this process, in conjunction with the cleaned up diet.

@ Bandit, I know I am still a bit noob, actually quite noob by the sounds of your concerns, and that a Test base is always good place to start. As I mentioned above, I was told that the cycle would give good strength and lean mass gains, so after reading about sides and how to combat them I thought I would try it out, with the appropriate supps to counter sides. Once I have recovered from this cycle I am looking at running a Test-E or Test Cyp with T-Bol front load and Anavar towards the latter part for some solid lean gains, but that will be a discussion for another day.

For now I am here to learn, and will take the constructive criticism as this will educate me and make my next cycle better. I appreciate any input.

If this is you first cycle, I wouldn't use only superdrol. Add some test enan or cyp to that and use the sperdrol for a the first three to four weeks.(I would use dbols rather than superdrol) Use proviron through out your cycle. Have a look at the beginner sample cycles on the forum dude. You will gain the most on your first cycle so don't waste it.

Bandit wrote: If this is you first cycle, I wouldn't use only superdrol. Add some test enan or cyp to that and use the sperdrol for a the first three to four weeks.(I would use dbols rather than superdrol) Use proviron through out your cycle. Have a look at the beginner sample cycles on the forum dude. You will gain the most on your first cycle so don't waste it.

Ok, If I am looking to lean bulk, what would be a good dose then? Will you check my suggested dose:

Week 1:4 Superdrol, continue as I have been
Week 3-14: Test Enan, 450mg/week
Week 1-14: Proviron, 40mg/day split am and pm

Bridge til PCT? Suggestions?

PCT: PCT2 started 30 days after last Test Enan Shot.

And get some letro drops incase of Gyno, which I am rather nervous of.

I would consider changing superdrol to dbol or tbol.
Test enan 2ml per week split mon/thurs.
If you can up your proviron to 60mgs.
You can bridge with winstrol and carry on with proviron through out your bridge.

Bandit wrote: I would consider changing superdrol to dbol or tbol.
If you can up your proviron to 60mgs.
You can bridge with winstrol and carry on with proviron through out your bridge.

Thank you for the advice

Leave the S-Drol as is since he has already started with it. If I were you I would just stop everything immediately. You haven´t wasted your first cycle or anything so don´t worry about it. Your BF is just too high to start your cycle. I would first focus on getting bodyfat down to 12% or so and then you can do your first cycle properly and not need to hold back on the cals.

I didn't see that he has already started with the superdrol. ??
I also didn't see you BF% . My bad.

Pyroclasm wrote: Leave the S-Drol as is since he has already started with it. If I were you I would just stop everything immediately. You haven´t wasted your first cycle or anything so don´t worry about it. Your BF is just too high to start your cycle. I would first focus on getting bodyfat down to 12% or so and then you can do your first cycle properly and not need to hold back on the cals.

Thanks Pyro. If I were to stop now would it be necessary to run some Nolva? Perhaps if I stop now it will give me time to plan and prepare properly for the aforementioned Test Enan cycle. Then I can focus on cutting properly now and save up to buy all the necessary gear etc to run a proper first cycle.

I fail to see the point behind short oral only cycles, bro science about gaining so much in a short space and maintaining anything just isn't viable...

Do things properly, set aside a well structured cycle, with a test base... (hope your not the kind looking for a quick fix because you scared of needles) ...

Plan and get everything in line, drop your bf first, you going to be a good target for Gyno at that bf, and that's the last thing you want off a first "cycle"

Stick to a basic test cyp/enanthate cycle, keep the sdrol for a front load considering you have some already, test is dirt cheap. So just do it properly in my opinion.

In all honesty, you prob going to finish your cycle anyway, so take our advice or not. But either way, good luck bro

You won´t need to PCT after only 7 days on an oral. You are choosing wisely I think bud!

@Bandit: No worries bro!

Thanks again for all the advice Pyro, Poison and Bandit, I really appreciate it!

So I have decided to stop the Superdrol Immediately, and will start to develop a better Test based cycle and use the left over superdrol as a front load for that cycle. For now my goal will be to get the BF to the 12-15% range, and in the meantime I will post my suggested cycle for criticism/advice before buying any more gear. Thanks again for all the advice and guidance.

Have some karma from my side for having such an open mind! +1

Agreed, +1 bud,