Proper First Cycle - Advise/Criticise Please

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03 Sep 2013 11:52 - 03 Sep 2013 11:57 #149546 by IronWolf
Hello Again

So I have reading some more and this in combination with the advice from my last thread, I have come up with the following cycle. Bear in mind this will only be done once the body fat is down to 12-15%

Current Stats:
Male
Age 26
Height 1.84m
Weight: 98kg
Body Fat: In the process of booking a session with a PT to accurately measure

Diet will be compiled and finalised closer to the time of running the cycle, but will most likely be split at 40% Prot, 40% Carb, 20% Fat, calories to be determined based on maintenance cals +10%? or what would you guys suggest? I will post the breakdown of that diet for criticism once it is compiled.

The cycle would be as follows:

Week 1:10; Testocyp 250, 2ml per week split dose
Week 1:3; left over Superdrol
Week 1:10 Proviron 40mg/day split
Week 11:PCT Proviron 60mg/day Split
Week 10:PCT Anavar (60mg/day during week 10, 80mg/day Week 11 - PCT)

Edit: My pocket wont like the anavar, but I'd like my joints to not dry out so I am avoiding Winnie.

PCT: PCT 2, starting on Day 103 (Last Testocyp shot on day 67)

Should I rather keep Letro or Arimidex drops on hand for Gyno? And what dose works for you guys? Or would the Proviron be sufficient to keep the estrogen in check on cycle? Would I need HCG during cycle?

Any suggestions/tweaks will be appreciated.
Last edit: 03 Sep 2013 11:57 by IronWolf. Reason: Additional Info

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03 Sep 2013 20:06 #149590 by Pyroclasm
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If your pocket is hurting then Proviron is the first to go. Bud leave the Superdrol seriously now. Just cause you now bought it doesn't mean it's a good idea to use it. I personally am shit scared of superdrol!

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03 Sep 2013 21:26 #149596 by IronWolf
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Pyroclasm wrote: If your pocket is hurting then Proviron is the first to go. Bud leave the Superdrol seriously now. Just cause you now bought it doesn't mean it's a good idea to use it. I personally am shit scared of superdrol!


Thanks Pyro. Will assess the finances closer to the time of the cycle and will remove the proviron if busget does not allow it. As for the Superdrol, I trust your judgement so will avoid it. Perhaps T-Bol for frontload @40mg ED, from what I have read its not as harsh on the system as d-bol? Just curious, what is it about the Superdrol that you dont dig? Always good to hear from those more experienced with AAS :)

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03 Sep 2013 21:39 #149602 by Pyroclasm
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Superdrol, in some cases, causes a very strange kind of gyno. This gyno normally pops up some months after the cycle. If you are one of the unlucky ones there is nothing you can do to stop this advancement of gyno (to my knowledge at least). Also something THAT harsh on your system I believe should only be considered by a professional needing all advantage he can get. YES T-Bol is perfect for a start! Even D-Bol is not that bad for you (but watch the gyno symptoms). Please don't freak out or go shooting up a 7/11 because of what I just told you about the gyno! The unlucky ones are few and far inbetween.

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03 Sep 2013 21:51 #149607 by IronWolf
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Hmmm, in that case I'm glad I have stopped using the Superdrol. Hopefully I am not one of them unlucky buggers that gets the sneaky Gyno! OK will look at the two options, I am leaning towards the T-bol because it wont cost much more than the d-bol and I would like to minimise Andro sides and gyno where possible :)

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