First cycle questions

Hi all

I started my first cycle this week and what a hectic week it's been.

Cycle:
250mg sus per week 1-8
30mg dbol ed week 1-4

PCT 1

Stats
32
83kg
Bf around 14% a bit high I know but on a bulking cycle

Changed training from a 4 day on 2 day off to 2 days traing and 1 day off ( off days are cardio)

Diet I would say is 95% as I sneak in a cheat meal meal a week..

My questions:
Since on cycle I have been eating like a horse I would say every hr or so as I get hunger pangs .....is this normal?

Haven't really seen a lot of strength gains but there have been a little... Note this is only day 4.. Is this correct?

Don't use any per workouts or N.O (oats and raisins suit me just fine) but pumps have been insane...this the test or dbol?

Also I have a protein shake with main meals and before and after workouts as I have read ur protein intake should increase... Is this correct..?

Btw the reason cycle so short and dosage so low is that this cycle is primary to see how my body reacts so I'm not expecting mass muscle gains or anything 2 or 3kgs will be fine lol... Let's say this is just a fore runner to more serious future cycles...

Thanks in advance

psychosid wrote: Hi all

I started my first cycle this week and what a hectic week it's been.

Cycle:
250mg sus per week 1-8
30mg dbol ed week 1-4

PCT 1

Stats
32
83kg
Bf around 14% a bit high I know but on a bulking cycle

Changed training from a 4 day on 2 day off to 2 days traing and 1 day off ( off days are cardio)

Diet I would say is 95% as I sneak in a cheat meal meal a week..

My questions:
Since on cycle I have been eating like a horse I would say every hr or so as I get hunger pangs .....is this normal? yip

Haven't really seen a lot of strength gains but there have been a little... Note this is only day 4.. Is this correct? strength gains will come gradually, still too soon

Don't use any per workouts or N.O (oats and raisins suit me just fine) but pumps have been insane...this the test or dbol? dbol

Also I have a protein shake with main meals and before and after workouts as I have read ur protein intake should increase... Is this correct..? yeah, protein synthesis increases while on cycle

Btw the reason cycle so short and dosage so low is that this cycle is primary to see how my body reacts so I'm not expecting mass muscle gains or anything 2 or 3kgs will be fine lol... Let's say this is just a fore runner to more serious future cycles... id extend the cycle if i were you bud, you will only start feeling the longer esthers 'kicking in' from around week 6 and onwards

Thanks in advance

2ml sust per week for 10 weeks...make the most of it...
up Dbol to 40mg...use essential liver sups
Pct no 2 as u are using test
strength should kick in in another week or so ..
pumps are most prob Dbol ..dont need PWO on Dbol
protein 3g per kg of body weight
try to keep your diet lean otherwise u pick up tomuch fat and then loose muscle trying to loose the fat later...
consider a bridge ?

Thanks guys

The reason I decided on 1ml is muscle still virgin.. My glute was sore ( as in a dull ache) for days lol.
As for a bridge I have thought about it and will be getting proviron to go till Pct... Would this be fine?

I may up cycle to 12 weeks but will decide halfway through cycle ( like I said I want to see how my body reacts). And consider doing 2 shots per week

1 ml or 2 ml same soreness just inject slowly and massage
Winny or anavar with the prov....

Complete waste of a cycle I.m.o

Pyroclasm wrote: Complete waste of a cycle I.m.o

Yep.

So guys just a quick update..week 5 now and stopped with the dbol..upped sus to 2 shots a week from 2nd week and using proviron and bridging with anavar..so now a few other questions...

1. Got no common sides yet (touch wood) but I did start getting cramps felt like by the kidneys ( guessing ) and stopped the dbol one day before I actually planned and drank more water than I normally do so drank +- 5 to 6 liters and cramping stopped after 2 days
was this the dbol?

2. How long will my strength be up after stopping dbol (im superman at the moment)

3. Pct waiting for sus is 56days?

4. Wat would a good next cycle be (need to save now lol..plan to do another in march) looking @ something to pin twice a week but something with shorter esters than sust as I dont want to do any orals again.

thanks in advance guys

1. Think that was not enough water intake ...kidneys or liver your back would be sore to the touch.
2. That strenght should last the whole cycle as the sust has kicked in and u should be getting stronger as u get bigger.
3. 45 to 54 days ...do a bridge to take out the ques work .
4. Prop and NPP ?

Pyroclasm wrote: Complete waste of a cycle I.m.o

Curious as to why you say this? Do you reckon the dbol amount is too low? (As I see the beginner cycle advises 50mg ed instead of 30mg ed as his cycle is doing?

Theodoric wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: Complete waste of a cycle I.m.o

Curious as to why you say this? Do you reckon the dbol amount is too low? (As I see the beginner cycle advises 50mg ed instead of 30mg ed as his cycle is doing?

He was going to pin 1ml 250mg of sust in the begining for 8 weeks instead of 2ml for at least 10

^^^this. Thanx Mike.

psychosid wrote: So guys just a quick update..week 5 now and stopped with the dbol..upped sus to 2 shots a week from 2nd week and using proviron and bridging with anavar..so now a few other questions...

1. Got no common sides yet (touch wood) but I did start getting cramps felt like by the kidneys ( guessing ) and stopped the dbol one day before I actually planned and drank more water than I normally do so drank +- 5 to 6 liters and cramping stopped after 2 days
was this the dbol?

2. How long will my strength be up after stopping dbol (im superman at the moment)

3. Pct waiting for sus is 56days?

4. Wat would a good next cycle be (need to save now lol..plan to do another in march) looking @ something to pin twice a week but something with shorter esters than sust as I dont want to do any orals again.

thanks in advance guys

1) Lol no dude you can't physically feel your organs. Also D-Bol is known for causing cramping IN MUSCLES so it was just a muscle bud.

2) As soon as it clears. +-3x half life of the oral.

3) @500mg Sus the longest wait to PCT I calculate is 24 days. Apologies for the incorrect info in the articles section.

4) Test En or Test Cyp is absolutely perfect for the job.

3) @500mg Sus the longest wait to PCT I calculate is 24 days. Apologies for the incorrect info in the articles section




thanks Pyro was getting conflicting info regarding pct wsit period for sus

ok the longest ester is Deca in Sust which the sight says is 45 days or 3 by 15 and the typo says 54 days ......but to take the ques work out do a bridge .....

Sust is 24 days not 54 ....thanks Pyro

need to update BOSS ...guys are doing pct all to moer ..