2nd planned cycle

Hey all members. I plan on hitting my second cycle this year in november. My goal is to build muscle in a lean manner. I plan on using test cypionate because it was given to me although I would prefer to take test prop. I will stack this with tren ace as it is more effective than tren enanthate.

week 1 - 10 test cypionate 500 mg
week 2 - 8 test cypionate 500 mg, tren ace 80mg eod
week 2 - 4 clen 40 mcg - 80mcg
week 6 - 8 clen 80 mcg - 120mcg
week 5 - 10 wiiny 50 mg (last 5 weeks - winny 50 ed)

Shit. I almost forget the pct. I will consider protocol 2 but still not sure if 1 0r 2 is advisable on the article section.

Tren in cycle. Do the docs PCT.

Why no bridge? Move the winny to the bridge period, so start it at about week 9-10.

Clen period is also a little arb?

Thanks chapel. Im not keen to tke beta sleep and other receptor regulators. So I will cycle clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. My other question os could I switch to prop after the cyp vial or should I stock tp cyp.

Hmm, tren in your second cycle. I would keep it for later cycle's, like your 4th or even 5th maybe.

Why not run nnp as a second compound?

Also this:

week 2 - 4 clen 40 mcg - 80mcg
week 6 - 8 clen 80 mcg - 120mcg

Week 6 - 8 you are gona have to start up from 40mcg again and work up, or might just get some nasty sides.

Can rather just move the clen to the bridge. Not sure why you dont want to use beta sleep to make full use of the clenbutrol.

Fakey_AK wrote: Hmm, tren in your second cycle. I would keep it for later cycle's, like your 4th or even 5th maybe.

Why not run nnp as a second compound?

Also this:

week 2 - 4 clen 40 mcg - 80mcg
week 6 - 8 clen 80 mcg - 120mcg

Week 6 - 8 you are gona have to start up from 40mcg again and work up, or might just get some nasty sides.

Thanx Fakey and also taking Clen @80mcg as a start is dangerous!

Tren in your second cycle is just not necessary and silly. Your winny should be run later to the end of your bridge up to pct. If I see one post from you when you are on cycle wanting advice for tren side effects God help me.

Guy this is the same bloke who wanted to cycle straight after his first cycle and if I'm not wrong just finished his PCT and now wants to do tren 2 months later look at his Karma...he's bombarded us with so many hair brained ideas and stupid threads that he's hell bent on either just pissing people off or hurting himself.
He's had a whole thread on doing Tren and we've all told him not to but hey.
Personally i think he should do tren because certain people shouldn't breed

Oh and he picked up over 20kg and droped BF on his first cycle of test...
So with Tren he should be a Pro by January

Rhino dont be a prick bro. Not here for that kind of shit.

Some good advice. So tren on 2nd cycle is not worth it, also gives me nothing to look forward to in future cycles. What if I just up the dose of test?

Was really hoping I COULD just turn over a new leaf with the guys i pissed off might be cliche though im here for the same reason most of you are on the forums. To gain the most i can. If it werent for you guys i would of listened to someone i first got my gear from and been on a 2nd cycle already.

WE ALL HERE TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND HELP GUIDE THE IRGNORANT

Correct me if im wrong, but testosterone Cypionate is the longest-estered testosterone available today.. It has a half-life in the body of bout 16 days. I will start with cypionate and then change to prop or npp because cyp can cause more water retention than other esters. Its probably because it reacts in the body for so long.

Rhino wrote: Guy this is the same bloke who wanted to cycle straight after his first cycle and if I'm not wrong just finished his PCT and now wants to do tren 2 months later look at his Karma...he's bombarded us with so many hair brained ideas and stupid threads that he's hell bent on either just pissing people off or hurting himself.
He's had a whole thread on doing Tren and we've all told him not to but hey.
Personally i think he should do tren because certain people shouldn't breed

hahahahhaa

Ok guys chill, lets not derail the thread too much. Chieppa you have the advice you need.

In my personal opinion you are over complicating things ridiculously. Chopping and changing your esters and compounds, there is very little structure. No one is going to spoon feed you, go to the sample cycle section. Look at what appeals, make a thread and we will advise. STOP GUESSING. People want to see you have made the effort and all the info you need is in the articles section.

I'm locking this so you can restart on a new thread with better research and planning.