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10 Sep 2013 14:41 #150294 by Roy123
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Hi guys,

Im planning my first cycle, will be using the Beginner bulking cycle but only to 8 weeks ( D-bol 40mg/day x 4 weeks and Testcyp 500mg/week x 8 weeks)

Need some advice with the AI in this case Arimidex, want to run 1mg/day from start of cycle to the start of PCT, this will be just over 3 months (8 weeks cycle + 36 days between cycle and PCT)
I read under Arimidex profile that it should be limited to 2 months of use.
Would like to use it through out the cycle to keep estrogen under control, and have read that gynecomastia can set in when the cycle is complete so would like to use it up to the start of PCT. Is it ok to run it for the 3 weeks? or have I missed something and planing something wrong?

Any help will be appreciated.

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10 Sep 2013 14:58 #150307 by Muscleaddict
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1mg/day is way more than necessary considering it's your first cycle and you haven't had gyno issues before I'm assuming. 0.5mg every other day should be more than enough. You can use that throughout your whole cycle.
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10 Sep 2013 14:59 #150309 by FIllet
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Test Cyp for 8 weeks is a waste, I really saw the serious results kick in early week 7 so rather go for 12 weeks.

0.25mg to 0.5mg EOD, I think this would be fine in terms of an AI - I never had to use mine on cycle
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10 Sep 2013 15:05 #150310 by mike123
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10 weeks min and the lower the Body fat the less chance of gyno ....12 % b/f
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10 Sep 2013 16:22 #150321 by Roy123
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Thanks for the help!

Will increase the duration of the Testcyp to 10 weeks.

First time so no gyno issues before just figure prevention is better the cure, Id rather just take the AI if its not too detrimental.

So if I took 0.5mg/EOD or even 0.25mg/EOD (if this is enough?) will it be safe to run over 10 week cycle and the 36 day between cycle and PCT?

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10 Sep 2013 16:58 #150329 by Bandit
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Are you going to run HCG during your cycle bud?

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10 Sep 2013 17:06 #150332 by Roy123
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Bandit wrote: Are you going to run HCG during your cycle bud?


I was planning to use Arimidex during cycle, and HCG only with the PCT.

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10 Sep 2013 19:44 #150372 by FIllet
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I would rather use HCG during the cycle bud, give your balls a kickstart and then just run your clomid and kessar as pct. Going to use winnies to keep you anabolic while you wait to pct?

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10 Sep 2013 21:19 #150379 by Pyroclasm
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An idea from my side is not to use any AI unless gyno symptoms appear. Why? On your first cycle, if you are clever, you want to see exactly how your body responds to the testosterone. There are many people who are not prone to gyno at all. What if you are one of them how could you know? AI's do affect gains hey.

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11 Sep 2013 07:35 #150412 by FIllet
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Pyroclasm wrote: An idea from my side is not to use any AI unless gyno symptoms appear. Why? On your first cycle, if you are clever, you want to see exactly how your body responds to the testosterone. There are many people who are not prone to gyno at all. What if you are one of them how could you know? AI's do affect gains hey.


Fully agree with this suggestion, you have a bit of time if you notice gyno symptoms.
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11 Sep 2013 10:35 #150436 by mike123
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use if u get itchy nips letro or arimidex dont use if unnecesary...
Hcg is personal pref...test only for 10 weeks I would use in PCT if u were doing deca as well then during cycle ...just monitor yourself

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11 Sep 2013 10:39 #150437 by CHAPEL
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Old argument.. Prevention vs cure. I'm for prevention. But pyro does make a valid point. Don't forget letro takes a while to reach its full efficiency.

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11 Sep 2013 10:44 #150442 by mike123
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Ja that also depends on the individual some say it takes awhile I find Letro to be quick ....

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13 Sep 2013 13:53 #150837 by Roy123
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Thanks a lot guys!

Will start the cycle and see how it goes.

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